TMP Refit - Why?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by austen_pierce, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. Avro Arrow

    Avro Arrow Rear Admiral Moderator

    Jan 10, 2003
    Aboard the USS Shenzhou
    You're not the only one to think this... some of the Star Trek novelists assumed the same thing. David Mack's Vanguard novel Harbinger had a pre-refit Miranda-class USS Bombay. And I'm not as sure about this one, but I think one of the old DC comics had a similar pre-refit Miranda-class USS Oxford. (Although I don't think the class of the Oxford was identified by name in the comic.)
  2. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Kang, now with ridges Premium Member

    Nov 4, 2001
    House of Kang
    When you compare the pilot Enterprise to the series Enterprise the ship probably had a slight refit or at least an upgrade to the bridge and nacelles.

  3. Praetor

    Praetor Vice Admiral Admiral

    Apr 18, 2004
    The fine line between continuity and fanwank.
    Interesting notion. I'd long thought the opposite, that the technology had remained so unchanged that it allowed them to remain viable (and that for whatever reason, Starfleet didn't need many/any Constitutions to remain so long.) Your theory may actually make more sense. We never really did see one of the older ships keep up with the newer.

    The WWII carrier Enterprise was unceremoniously scrapped, despite being one of only three pre-war carriers to survive and receiving 20 battle stars, more than any other American ship in the war. (In fact, she was the most decorated U.S. ship ever.) She even received a British Admiralty Pennant, the only ship outside the Royal Navy to receive one in the 400 years since its creation. There was desire to turn her into a museum, but the money just wasn't there.

    Ah yes, the Oxford, Kirk's first command. I enjoyed that story arc. I believe Kirk referred to her as a light cruiser.
  4. Garrovick

    Garrovick Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 10, 2012
    wallowing in a pool of emotion
    This is somewhat similar to what happened with the US Navy after the Washington Treaty was signed between the major naval powers of the time in 1922... Prior to the treaty the US was building and commissioning roughly one new battleship a year, but this treaty but the brakes on that in order to avoid a global naval arms race. The US Navy couldn't build any new battleships (and had to decommission or stop construction on a few), but they could refit existing ones. So, during the late 1920s and the 1930's, they ended up refitting a lot of their older battleships, and many of them ended up with a very different external appearance afterwards. The treaty ended up getting discarded during the buildup to WW2 when it became clear that refitting ships wasn't going to cut it any more because the presumed enemy powers were building bigger and heavier ships.