TMP Like New For Me

[Mysterion]

Sorry...I'm sticking with it, it IS in Gene's own writing, and I'll let others use what they wish...I'm simply going with Gene's OWN "IDIC" principles that have been part of Trek since its beginning, and since Gene himself DID spell it that way, that's where I'm staying.

Thank you!

Entertaining. Almost like having James Dixon back...

 

[Maurice]

Well, to be fair, Voyager 6 as seen in the movie had its name and origin information on a metal plate that is not seen or the real Voyagers 1 and 2, so if that bit is different who's to say it had Sounds of Earth record at all?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

As seen in the mind meld sequence, Voyager 6 evidently had a Pioneer Plaque, so it's perplexing how V'ger came to the conclusion that the carbon units that were depicted on or in V'ger itself were an infestation. Seeing them as pets of the Creator, for example, would have been more reasonable, given that V'ger was still somehow unable to understand this thing, life, that it had digitized zillions of times before.

And that's not even getting into the fact that V'ger couldn't possibly have learned all there is to know about this universe if it couldn't understand regular life, something it had digitized many times before. Having knowledge that reaches the limit of this universe implies understanding life in this universe. Spock's supposed to be a supergenius, one who's realized his humanity by that point, so saying that Spock's wrong in-universe is a cop-out. The fault is the writing. What V'ger is supposed to be just doesn't make sense.

 

[Maurice]

Welllllll, we immediately recognize a drawing of a human as a representation of it, but an alien intelligence might not. Or if they do, they might think the images are a warning about the carbon unit infestation.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Oh, boy....

Weird that V'ger knew to read the letters but not analyze the drawings on the plaque.... Ugh. I'm gonna stop; blood, stone, etc.

 

[Maurice]

Oh, well, now, if you want it to make sense...

 

[Pauln6]

It maybe that the Ilia probe extrapolated how to say V'Ger from the limited information implanted in her consciousness. There is no evidence that V'Ger ever interacted with the life forms it has absorbed or that it understood the nature of Ilia's memories. Machine intelligence like V'Ger might have a weird quantum brain that just doesn't get us, like in Darmok, where context is lost, only more binary.

 

[J.T.B.]

Weird that V'ger knew to read the letters but not analyze the drawings on the plaque....

V'ger is a child... wait, no...

 

[Mudd]

Oh, boy....

Weird that V'ger knew to read the letters but not analyze the drawings on the plaque.... Ugh. I'm gonna stop; blood, stone, etc.

Weird that while they're building God's own spaceship to please the little alien space probe they can't be bothered to wipe the grime off its plaque.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Weird that while they're building God's own spaceship to please the little alien space probe they can't be bothered to wipe the grime off its plaque.

The holy mud was not to be disturbed, I guess.

 

[Tallguy]

I always love it when hard sci fi with super deep philosophy turns into 1960's TV right in front of you.

Space 1999 is the leader of this trope. The new Lost in Space tries hard to carry on the tradition.

 

[2takesfrakes]

After all this time, who knew these fine items existed? Not I, surely ...
TMP: The Wallet
http://pictures.depop.com/b0/3055095/242695933_mFABy4cVkO/P1.jpg
Wallet Open
http://pictures.depop.com/b0/3055095/242696011_kUH1w3AeFm/P1.jpg

Lee Cole, who came up with much of the graphics used in TMP even offered this peel-off graphics book from the movie (!!!)
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bf/28/f5/bf28f5eaf5475a5e06faeffd4e4ae815.jpg

TMP: The Metal (!!!) Lunchbox and - OK? - AND Thermos
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5e/38/dd/...32--lunch-box-thermos-vintage-lunch-boxes.jpg

 

[GNDN18]

Lee Cole, who came up with much of the graphics used in TMP even offered this peel-off graphics book from the movie (!!!)

Ah, yes. I turned the house into a Starfleet installation with this book. Much to dad’s chagrin…yet he let them stay. He was an IDIC adept, it seems.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Outstanding, sir! But what household would be complete without TMP: The Game Cloth?
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTU5OVgxMjAw/z/szwAAOSwNFFbBEZE/$_57.JPG

... Actually, TMP merchandise seems to have been endless!

 

[GNDN18]

 

[Galileo7]

TMP: The Metal (!!!) Lunchbox and - OK? - AND Thermos
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5e/38/dd/...32--lunch-box-thermos-vintage-lunch-boxes.jpg

I still have TMP metal lunchbox from back in '79.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Oh, my ...
But do you eat your fill from this bowl, when you use it?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2-wAAOSw9KhaBPA-/s-l1600.jpg

Or this tray?
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/w1600/pict/292537154951_/NEW-Star-Trek-The-Motion-Picture.jpg

AND ...
did you ever pack your P&J sammich from this alternative TMP lunch pail?
http://junkpirate.com/wp-content/uploads/1501389079.jpg

 

[GNDN18]

I am stunned at how much of this stuff I had. Thanks for reminding me… I think.

 

[J.T.B.]

I turned the house into a Starfleet installation with this book. Much to dad’s chagrin…yet he let them stay. He was an IDIC adept, it seems.

My mom could see that coming and refused to allow me to buy that sticker peel-off graphics book. Somehow she held out until they were gone from the store.

AND ...
did you ever pack your P&J sammich from this alternative TMP lunch pail?
http://junkpirate.com/wp-content/uploads/1501389079.jpg

I believe that is just the other side of the one in #72. As kids of the '70s know, the fine folks at Aladdin gave you something different on each side (mine was from Emergency!).

 

[Tallguy]

I didn't go CRAZY with the sticker book. But I didn't entirely stay sane either.