Agree.
I still fondly remember watching this scene as a boy in the movie theater on Friday December 7th 1979. Kirk and Scotty fly around in the travel pod of the newly refit 1701 was awesome to me.
TMP: Kirk's Journey to the Ship
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Agree.
I still fondly remember watching this scene as a boy in the movie theater on Friday December 7th 1979. Kirk and Scotty fly around in the travel pod of the newly refit 1701 was awesome to me.
Some people complained about the long effects scenes, including the Enterprise reveal, even then. It IS too long. It's too long in part because they show too much of the ship through the dock from the outside, and there are shots like the inexplicable slow pass on the hexagonal lighting unit which should have been tossed on the cutting room floor and stomped on.
Agreed. It's an over-long scene in a movie consisting of overlong moments.
Length ≠ profundity!
The problem here is one of dramatic tension. The presence of the ship is teased, with glimpses through the dock structure, until finally the big reveal. And then... another four minutes of the ship, no suspense, nothing new revealed. At least with the V'Ger flyover there is a sense of venturing into the unknown, and possible imminent attack, to give some sort of emotional interest.
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Some people complained about the long effects scenes, including the Enterprise reveal, even then. It IS too long. It's too long in part because they show too much of the ship through the dock from the outside, and there are shots like the inexplicable slow pass on the hexagonal lighting unit which should have been tossed on the cutting room floor and stomped on.
Agreed. It's an over-long scene in a movie consisting of overlong moments.
Length ≠ profundity!
The problem here is one of dramatic tension. The presence of the ship is teased, with glimpses through the dock structure, until finally the big reveal. And then... another four minutes of the ship, no suspense, nothing new revealed. At least with the V'Ger flyover there is a sense of venturing into the unknown, and possible imminent attack, to give some sort of emotional interest.
In the movie theater, on the big screen on December 7th 1979, the newly refit 1701 was for the fan to take in the majesty of this starship. We got to look at her for a little while. I was a boy then and enjoyed every minute.
Maybe you have to see it on the big screen to truly appreciate it. Before that moment in '79 the only 1701 we knew was the TOS/TAS design.
In the movie theater, on the big screen on December 7th 1979, the newly refit 1701 was for the fan to take in the majesty of this starship. We got to look at her for a little while. I was a boy then and enjoyed every minute.
I think this is a big part of it, particularly if you'd been waiting years for new Star Trek.
In the movie theater, on the big screen on December 7th 1979, the newly refit 1701 was for the fan to take in the majesty of this starship. We got to look at her for a little while. I was a boy then and enjoyed every minute.
I think I was impressed the first time I saw it, when I was pretty young. The early ship stuff and V'Ger were like nothing I'd seen before. But at this point in my life spectacle is no longer enough.
Way, way back so very many years I had a chance to see TMP at Ontario Place on an IMAX screen.
Talking about really conveying the ship's size. In IMAX the TMP refit was thunderous during the reveal sequence.
Throughout the theatre there was lot of hushed awe accented with expressions of "Holy shit!"
It really took your breath away.
Talking about really conveying the ship's size. In IMAX the TMP refit was thunderous during the reveal sequence.
Throughout the theatre there was lot of hushed awe accented with expressions of "Holy shit!"
It really took your breath away.
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Awesome! That must have been intense in IMAX. That it how it felt to me as a young boy in a conventional theater on that Friday December 7 1979.
...a date which will live in infamy....
(I wasn't going to go there, but you mentioned the date like three times....)
I'm not a member of the spaceship admiration society so I really enjoyed TWOK's space battles compared to the woosh woosh of other battles. It has character moments and strategy compared to CGI and models.
Maybe I would have enjoyed the 4 minute journey to the shi in TMP if the graphics were better but I doubt it. It was at least 3 minutes too long. Maybe 3:30. If we saw inside the windows or something it might have been more interesting to me.
Then the endless shots of Vger. Just too much. Just might as well as shone a torch in my eyes. Maybe if you had something to compare it to in shot. Otherwise it was just a bunch of lights.
I liked the Klingon shots and Spock's shuttle. They were interesting and something was happening.
I can imagine that if it was never intended to be hung, the nacelle pylons would eventually sag under the weight and the nacelles would go seriously out of plumb.
Which means: The engines, they canna take the strain!
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