TMP and Voyager

[NCC-1701-B]

Why in Trek V, could the enterprise go to the center of the galaxy in a few days, but voyagers journey back take years and years? Voyager would make the equivalent of the enterprises journey in length. Why were ships so much faster in the 23rd century? or was it to make the galaxy bigger for TNG?

 

[Shawnster]

I think you mean Star Trek V. In TMP the Enterprise encountered V'Ger near Earth.

 

[NCC-1701-B]

oh yeah, stupid me :P

 

[Myasishchev]

Because:

a)Sybok did something off-camera to the engines that made the Enterprise go really, really fast; or
b)the Great Barrier isn't really in the center of the galaxy, just more... toward the center of the galaxy; or, and most likely,
b)God was capable of manipulation of matter and spacetime beyond the confines of his prison, and permit the Enterprise to go faster than usual, although he could not fully manifest; this is strongly supported by God's apparent ability to contact (and perhaps manipulate) Sybok.

 

[Mach5]

You see, both the Enterprise A and Voyager can travel at the 'speed of plot.' It's just that Enterprise's speed of plot can be up to a 1000 times faster than Voyagers, depending on the destination and it's distance.

 

[miraclefan]

You see, both the Enterprise A and Voyager can travel at the 'speed of plot.' It's just that Enterprise's speed of plot can be up to a 1000 times faster than Voyagers, depending on the destination and it's distance.

THEY'VE GONE PLAID!

 

[Michael]

You see, both the Enterprise A and Voyager can travel at the 'speed of plot.' It's just that Enterprise's speed of plot can be up to a 1000 times faster than Voyagers, depending on the destination and it's distance.

Exactly. There isn't any other reason, really.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

Because:

a)Sybok did something off-camera to the engines that made the Enterprise go really, really fast; or
b)the Great Barrier isn't really in the center of the galaxy, just more... toward the center of the galaxy; or, and most likely,
b)God was capable of manipulation of matter and spacetime beyond the confines of his prison, and permit the Enterprise to go faster than usual, although he could not fully manifest; this is strongly supported by God's apparent ability to contact (and perhaps manipulate) Sybok.

or
V just really really sucked badly.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Why in Trek V, could the enterprise go to the center of the galaxy in a few days, but voyagers journey back take years and years? Voyager would make the equivalent of the enterprises journey in length. Why were ships so much faster in the 23rd century? or was it to make the galaxy bigger for TNG?

Also in the Chase Professor Galen was outlining his trip which looked like it was traveling literally halfway accross the galaxy in a matter on months, and possibly faster if he had a starship.

 

[urbandk]

You see, both the Enterprise A and Voyager can travel at the 'speed of plot.' It's just that Enterprise's speed of plot can be up to a 1000 times faster than Voyagers, depending on the destination and it's distance.

I hear you turn into a salamander if the plot moves too fast.

 

[Myasishchev]

Because:

a)Sybok did something off-camera to the engines that made the Enterprise go really, really fast; or
b)the Great Barrier isn't really in the center of the galaxy, just more... toward the center of the galaxy; or, and most likely,
b)God was capable of manipulation of matter and spacetime beyond the confines of his prison, and permit the Enterprise to go faster than usual, although he could not fully manifest; this is strongly supported by God's apparent ability to contact (and perhaps manipulate) Sybok.

or
V just really really sucked badly.

TFF rocked. It had one little, logical mistake. Okay, two, if you count the number of decks.

Hardly film-killing.

 

[Praetor]

Agreed. TFF felt like TOS, flaws and all.

 

[NCC-1701-B]

That answered my question. thanks

 

[Gary7]

There is one theory... about the idea of folding space and traveling through a "wormhole". The fold only works from the center to the periphery. Thus, if you're on the outskirts of the Milky Way galaxy, you can get to the center, and vice-versa. For some reason, the fold doesn't work in the middle portion.

Thus, Sybok manages to invoke this magical fold... and so they make it to the center of the galaxy. I can't remember how they managed to return and then not share this technology with the rest of the Federation, though.

 

[TheGodBen]

Most of TFF was actually a bad dream experienced by Spock due to trying out McCoy's beans (which are apparently a mild hallucinogenic for Vulcans) and this is why the final scene takes place back in the forest where they were in the beginning of the movie, it was supposed to be the next night. Unfortunately Shatner was a sucky editor as well as being a sucky director, so he cut out the whole sequence where Spock wakes up and realises it's a dream in order to keep the Uhura/Scotty romance scenes, and this actually led the audience to believe that the events involving Sybok and God were real. Of course this is ludicrous because the crew of the Enterprise aren't really clueless idiots, and Spock doesn't even have a brother, but to this day some people still believe that the events of this film weren't a dream.

 

[Praetor]

Not a fan, GodBen?

 

[miraclefan]

Most of TFF was actually a bad dream experienced by Spock due to trying out McCoy's beans (which are apparently a mild hallucinogenic for Vulcans) and this is why the final scene takes place back in the forest where they were in the beginning of the movie, it was supposed to be the next night. Unfortunately Shatner was a sucky editor as well as being a sucky director, so he cut out the whole sequence where Spock wakes up and realises it's a dream in order to keep the Uhura/Scotty romance scenes, and this actually led the audience to believe that the events involving Sybok and God were real. Of course this is ludicrous because the crew of the Enterprise aren't really clueless idiots, and Spock doesn't even have a brother, but to this day some people still believe that the events of this film weren't a dream.

Not a fan, GodBen?

I think it's pretty obvious how Godben, feels about this movie!

 

[Michael]

^ And I think it's pretty obvious Praetor was just joking.

 

[Praetor]

Yes, this appears to be one of the rare cases where GodBen and I disagree.

 

[Mach5]

Most of TFF was actually a bad dream experienced by Spock due to trying out McCoy's beans (which are apparently a mild hallucinogenic for Vulcans) and this is why the final scene takes place back in the forest where they were in the beginning of the movie, it was supposed to be the next night. Unfortunately Shatner was a sucky editor as well as being a sucky director, so he cut out the whole sequence where Spock wakes up and realises it's a dream in order to keep the Uhura/Scotty romance scenes, and this actually led the audience to believe that the events involving Sybok and God were real. Of course this is ludicrous because the crew of the Enterprise aren't really clueless idiots, and Spock doesn't even have a brother, but to this day some people still believe that the events of this film weren't a dream.

GodBen, you just made my day!