Spoilers Thunderbolts* grade and discussion thread

[Starkers]

Well, but a recap video is 1) free, and 2) a lot shorter than watching all of, say, Hawkeye.

I liked the first episode of Hawkeye, but was so unimpressed with the second I bailed on the rest of the season then and there, so I didn't see Yelena appear in it. Anyhow, reading up on Wiki, it sounds like having seen her bits of that show would make Thunderbolts more confusing, not less. Yelena had a dog? What happened to it? What about her nascent friendship with Kate Bishop? And she wasn't just doing hits for Valentina, a theoretical good guy, but was a contract for Kate's (Fisk-employed) civilian mother, too? So... Yelena was a straight-up villain for a while? But John Walker, the first person in history to receive the Medal of Honor three times, is positioned as the bad apple of the bunch for killing one adversary (and, yes, bit a bit of a jerk)? And Valentina, despite all her attempted murders-by-hire (successful, in Antonia's case), gets to keep her job instead of being arrested by Walker on the spot? (Seems like a bit of a double standard along gender lines, maybe?)

Couple of points.

The dog isn't Yelena's, it's Kate's.

And yeah John Walker kills one adversary...by brutally beating them to death with his shield in front of dozens of witnesses? (I can't even recall but was the guy even armed at this point?)

Anyhoo Hawkeye remains one of my favourite MCU tv series alongside WandaVision.

 

[Dee1891]

So far, "Thunderbolts*" has been in theaters for roughly 12 days and has earned a profit of $94 million dollars.

 

[Gaith]

The dog isn't Yelena's, it's Kate's.

Wiki: "Inside Anna's house, Belova becomes a victim of the Blip and is restored to life in 2023, hoping to talk with Romanoff, but eventually learns of her death. Belova goes on to get a dog named Fanny and work as a contract killer for Valentina Allegra de Fontaine."

And yeah John Walker kills one adversary...by brutally beating them to death with his shield in front of dozens of witnesses?

And that contradicts what I wrote... how?

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Thunderbolts* worldwide earnings to date (5-14-2025): $273,954,868 against a $180 million dollar production budget and $100 million dollar marketing budget (according to Variety), so it has still no fully made its investment back.

 

[Anwar]

Thunderbolts* worldwide earnings to date (5-14-2025): $273,954,868 against a $180 million dollar production budget and $100 million dollar marketing budget (according to Variety), so it has still no fully made its investment back.

Variety was wrong about how high the marketing budget was.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Variety was wrong about how high the marketing budget was.

Where can one find the accurate information?

 

[Anwar]

Where can one find the accurate information?

Hasn't been released yet, but Variety's been hit before for sloppy research

 

[Guy Gardener]

Hawkeye (the series) is superb.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Couple of points.

The dog isn't Yelena's, it's Kate's.

And yeah John Walker kills one adversary...by brutally beating them to death with his shield in front of dozens of witnesses? (I can't even recall but was the guy even armed at this point?)

Anyhoo Hawkeye remains one of my favourite MCU tv series alongside WandaVision.

(from memory)

John decapitated an unarmed man, trying to surrender, in front of a live TV camera.

The problem, was the televising, not the murder.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Variety was wrong about how high the marketing budget was.

Where can one find the accurate information?

Hasn't been released yet, but Variety's been hit before for sloppy research

But where has it been stated that Variety was wrong this time?