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Thomas Riker during/after the Dominion War

Tom Riker did a great favor to the female changeling and as a thank you, she turned him into a changeling (after all if they can make Odo a human being then why not the reverse?) and so he was able to slide under the door and escape that way...
 
How ridiculous the Changlings are where they can make one of their own humanoid but didn't have a clue how to recover from Section 31 virus???
 
We don't even know what Will Riker is like there. We never saw TNG's doppelgangers.

According to the comics, he has no sleeves and a high tech eye patch.

Tom Riker did a great favor to the female changeling and as a thank you, she turned him into a changeling (after all if they can make Odo a human being then why not the reverse?) and so he was able to slide under the door and escape that way...

Why wouldn't they do that to every one then, if they're so afraid of solids?
 
Tom Riker did a great favor to the female changeling and as a thank you, she turned him into a changeling (after all if they can make Odo a human being then why not the reverse?) and so he was able to slide under the door and escape that way...

If he's anything like Will, I can imagine what that "favor" was... :adore:
 
it is heavily implied in later episodes that what the Great Link did to Odo was "lock" him into a super detailed simulation of normal humanoid biology.. likely the level of detail that the infiltrators use to avoid sensor scan detection and such.

this is why the baby changeling could merge with Odo and give him back shapeshifting.. it unlocked the shapeshifting again in the process of the merger.
 
it is heavily implied in later episodes that what the Great Link did to Odo was "lock" him into a super detailed simulation of normal humanoid biology.. likely the level of detail that the infiltrators use to avoid sensor scan detection and such.

this is why the baby changeling could merge with Odo and give him back shapeshifting.. it unlocked the shapeshifting again in the process of the merger.

Chances are the changeling were themselves artificially created by people who have since gone extinct.
 
It was more ridiculous of section 31 to devise a cure for their virus.

And why would Sloane have that information? I would think that it would be strictly "need to know".

Section 31's actions show why the Dominion worked so quickly to wipe out the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order... organizations like them were indeed a severe threat to them. Problem is, they got the Cardie and Romulan secret organizations, but they left the Federation's one standing.
 
And why would Sloane have that information? I would think that it would be strictly "need to know".

Section 31's actions show why the Dominion worked so quickly to wipe out the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order... organizations like them were indeed a severe threat to them. Problem is, they got the Cardie and Romulan secret organizations, but they left the Federation's one standing.

The thing is that millions of people died in this war and not ONE of them was a founder!!! The very people who started it, the jems and the vorta being like pawns on a chessboard.
 
The thing is that millions of people died in this war and not ONE of them was a founder!!! The very people who started it, the jems and the vorta being like pawns on a chessboard.

A few changelings were killed, but I am inclined to agree that it might have been better if S31's virus had been allowed to finish them off for good. With them gone, the Jem'Hadar would have followed soon after, another species the galaxy could do without. The Vorta, with no masters to serve and no killers to command, would have found a new place in the galactic community. Hopefully a less obnoxious one.
 
...Is this assertion based on something?

I simply don't see how they could have evolved this way. Evolution just doesn't happen like that, you need predators, competition for resources, and selection.... How can any of that happen if all they do most of the time is float in a puddle of goo?
 
I simply don't see how they could have evolved this way. Evolution just doesn't happen like that, you need predators, competition for resources, and selection.... How can any of that happen if all they do most of the time is float in a puddle of goo?

So the silver blood in Voyager was created as well?
 
So the silver blood in Voyager was created as well?

Do you really believe that a thing that can mimic anything from people to starships could just appear spontaneously like that?

It would be like nature producing homo sapiens directly from inanimate matter without first going through eons of progressive evolution.
 
Do you really believe that a thing that can mimic anything from people to starships could just appear spontaneously like that?

In a universe in which mushrooms connect all dimensions and travelling too fast turns you into a salamander? Absolutely.
 
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For all we know the Changelings just pushed all other forms of life on their planet into extinction after they evolved into their current forms.

I could see a scenario, especially in the way Trek portrays evolution, where they started out as, basically large, probably predatory amoebas and over time both gained the ability to mimic other life-forms for both protection and hunting as well as the ability to fuse with each other and split up again (possibly as a means to exchange DNA between individuals) and that eventually led to the great link. And at some point after that they gained sapience due to their great link, which by that time might already enveloped their planet.
 
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I simply don't see how they could have evolved this way. Evolution just doesn't happen like that, you need predators, competition for resources, and selection.... How can any of that happen if all they do most of the time is float in a puddle of goo?
Evolution works by compounding small changes over time, sometimes arriving at complex systems. There is a famous canard that evolution cannot explain eyesight because the human eye is so complex, it couldn't work except in its final form. However, it's been demonstrated numerous times that cells can be sensitive to being stricken by light, and that ability can become progressively more complex. Ds9 is obviously fiction, so we could just handwave the evolution of shape-shifting away, but I don't think it is difficult to imagine how it emerges. Individual organisms mutate and pass down the ability to alter tissues, perhaps as a response to injury or disease. As this ability becomes more sophisticated, it is employed in areas not related to healing, but starts to build into other areas of their existence, influencing intimacy and habitation.
 
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