Tholian Web--Emmy?

[Greg Cox]

A question for the brain trust:

Did "The Tholian Web" win an Emmy for SFX, or was it just nominated? I'm seeing conflicting reports on-line.

 

[BlueStuff]

Just nominated.

 

[Greg Cox]

Just nominated.

I suspected as much, even though both The Star Trek Companion and Wikipedia say it won.

 

[MANT!]

The first Star Trek series to win an Emmy was .....


The Animated Series...

 

[Greg Cox]

And even the official Emmy database doesn't seem to mention "The Tholian Web" by name . . . .

 

[ncc71877]

Out of curiosity what show won that Emmy?

ncc71877

 

[Greg Cox]

Hmm. I'm still trying to pin this down. The official Emmy database lists a couple of nominations for special effects but none of them mention "The Tholian Web" by name. They seem to be just for Star Trek in general.

How do we know that they were nominated because of "The Tholian Web"?

(I have to write a non-fiction piece on this episode and I want to get my facts right.)

 

[Maurice]

From a post a while ago:

All nominations. No wins.

1967 Emmy Awards Ceremony
Outstanding Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Drama
WINNER

• The Poppy Is Also a Flower: Eli Wallach (ABC)

NOMINEES

• The Man from U.N.C.L.E.: Leo G. Carroll (NBC)
• Star Trek: Leonard Nimoy (NBC)

Outstanding Dramatic Series
WINNER

• Mission: Impossible: Joseph Gantman (producer), Bruce Geller (producer) (CBS)

NOMINEES

• The Avengers: Julian Wintle (executive producer) (ABC)
• I Spy: David Friedkin (producer), Morton S. Fine (producer) (NBC)
• Star Trek: Gene Roddenberry (producer), Gene L. Coon (producer) (NBC)
• Run for Your Life: Jo Swerling Jr. (producer) (NBC)

INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENTS IN ART DIRECTION AND ALLIED CRAFTS - 1967

• Jim Rugg, Mechanical Special Effects (NOMINEE)

INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENTS IN FILM AND SOUND EDITING - 1967

• Douglas Grindstaff, Sound Editor (NOMINEE)

INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENTS IN CINEMATOGRAPHY - 1967

• Darrell Anderson, Special Effects; Linwood G. Dunn, Special Effects; Joseph Westheimer, Special Effects (NOMINEE)

1968 Emmy Awards Ceremony
Outstanding Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Drama
WINNER

• Gunsmoke: Milburn Stone (CBS), For episode "Baker's Dozen".

NOMINEES

• Star Trek: Leonard Nimoy (NBC)
• CBS Playhouse: Lawrence Dobkin (CBS)
• For episode "Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night (#1.2)".
• Mannix: Joseph Campanella (CBS)

Outstanding Dramatic Series
WINNER

• Mission: Impossible: Joseph Gantman (producer) (CBS)

NOMINEES

• The Avengers: Albert Fennell (producer), Brian Clemens (producer) (ABC)
• I Spy: David Friedkin (producer), Morton S. Fine (producer) (NBC)
• Run for Your Life: Roy Huggins (producer) (NBC)
• Star Trek: Gene Roddenberry (producer) (NBC)

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN FILM EDITING - 1968

• Donald R. Rode, Editor (NOMINEE)

SPECIAL CLASSIFICATION OF INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENTS - 1968

• The Westheimer Company, Special Photographic Effects (NOMINEE)

1969 Emmy Awards Ceremony
Outstanding Continued Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Series
WINNER

• Hogan's Heroes: Werner Klemperer (CBS)

NOMINEES

• Mission: Impossible: Greg Morris (CBS)
• Star Trek: Leonard Nimoy (NBC)

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN FILM EDITING - 1969

• Donald R. Rode, Editor (NOMINEE)

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN ART DIRECTION AND SCENIC DESIGN - 1969

• John Dwyer, Set Decorator; Walter M. Jefferies (NOMINEE)

SPECIAL CLASSIFICATION ACHIEVEMENTS - 1969

• Howard A. Anderson Company, Special Photographic Effects; The Westheimer Company, Special Photographic Effects; Van der Veer Photo Effects, Special Photographic Effects; Cinema Research, Special Photographic Effects (NOMINEE)

Source: Emmys.com

 

[Greg Cox]

^ Interesting. I assume it's those "Special Classification" noms in '68 and '69 we're talking about here. But I don't see anything specifying that those were for "The Tholian Web" in particular--unless those were the only Star Trek effects done by the Westheimer Company those years?

 

[alchemist]

Is this helpful? It's the 8/19/69 rerun listing from TV Guide.

 

[Greg Cox]

Very interesting. Thanks for posting that!

 

[Knight Templar]

A little bit off topic, but I think the production staff on the original Trek series should've gotten an Emmy for the creative use of stock footage for a number of episodes.

 

[Maurice]

A little bit off topic, but I think the production staff on the original Trek series should've gotten an Emmy for the creative use of stock footage for a number of episodes.

Why? Trek's use of stock footage is pretty standard as far as I'm concerned. Try watching Lost in Space and you'll see stock shots reused in about the same abundance.

 

[Greg Cox]

A little bit off topic, but I think the production staff on the original Trek series should've gotten an Emmy for the creative use of stock footage for a number of episodes.

Why? Trek's use of stock footage is pretty standard as far as I'm concerned. Try watching Lost in Space and you'll see stock shots reused in about the same abundance.

Ditto, I believe, for Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.

Pretty common in that era. I believe Roger Corman used the same "burning castle" footage in pretty much all of his Edgar Allan Poe movies . . . .

 

[Knight Templar]

A little bit off topic, but I think the production staff on the original Trek series should've gotten an Emmy for the creative use of stock footage for a number of episodes.

Why? Trek's use of stock footage is pretty standard as far as I'm concerned. Try watching Lost in Space and you'll see stock shots reused in about the same abundance.

I'm not talking about abundance. I'm talking about how well they were chosen and how appropriate they were to the story at hand.