I like what we got more.
THIS was the design for the NEW engine room???
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If nothing else, we can always say the classic 60s engine room is the one thing that looks more advanced and practical than something on the 2009 ship.
No me in that we.
Like the concept art much better than the brewary we wound up with. I actually like the bridge art concept better than what we saw on screen as well. The bridge in the movie was a little to Apple Store for me. I get the feeling it will look very dated in a short amount of time.
Apple stores don't even look like that.
I wouldn't necessarily think it claustrophobic, but I was struck by how little floor space there actually was in the original set, not to mention how many different ways they moved the equipment, walls and consoles around, depending upon the needs of the episode... <snip picture>
It never was a huge space - the camera "added 10' ". This is my idea of a "4th season" upgrade to the set.
It sure looked pretty big when Kirk and Khan were fighting in it!
I can think of a good argument against the huge-open-engineering model we got in the movie: compartmentalization. A radiation leakage on the NuEngineering would necessitate evacuation of the whole brewery. Everything tucked away behind bulkheads - with Jeffries tubes for access to components - makes more sense. It's just not as AWESOME! i guess.
Only if the bulkheads are equipped with thick radiation shields, and I kind of doubt they are. Actually, the only thing that needs to be shielded is the reactor itself and anything that might be carrying irradiated coolant. Any leakage could be contained by forcefields, or--more logically--by the fact that engineering crews are supposed to wear those neat rad-suits ala TMP.
Compartmentalization only makes sense in terms of, say, a hull breach or something, but even in this case the compartments WE saw were small enough to suffice for that.
Well - lots of frosted glass - minimalistic lighting - lots of modern-y wood furniture. Not particularly busy - in fact, very visually plain.
Oh yeah, that's definitley what the bridge looks like.
Oh yeah, that's definitley what the bridge looks like.
I think this design would make an AWESOME engine room:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0441.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0441.jpg
Yes, if you can't see past the pulsating lighting and gleaming metal surfaces.I think this design would make an AWESOME engine room:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0441.jpg
Apple store? Looks more like a Macy's to me.
That concept art is amazing! Really beautiful. But, i have to say, the brewery/engineering didnt bother me. In fact, i thought it was a huge step up from what we saw in TOS--so either way, i'm happy.
People seem to be forgetting that the engineering section in the movie was not an artistic choice.
Bitching about a decision that was made because they were out of money seems silly.
Its like bitching about a character being written out of your favorite show because the actress got pregnant and decided to leave the show.
It isn't something under the control of the producers.
Similarly, the engine room we got was making lemonade out of lemons. I thought the engine room in the film was a little galaxy quest-ish, but I'd rather have that than the movie go over budget and risk the odds of getting a sequel.
Bitching about a decision that was made because they were out of money seems silly.
Its like bitching about a character being written out of your favorite show because the actress got pregnant and decided to leave the show.
It isn't something under the control of the producers.
Similarly, the engine room we got was making lemonade out of lemons. I thought the engine room in the film was a little galaxy quest-ish, but I'd rather have that than the movie go over budget and risk the odds of getting a sequel.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
Huh-uh. The producers could have chosen to skip the SW homage with creatures eating creatures chasing Kirk and paid for a set instead. It is ABSOLUTELY the producers who made the call ...
Either way, I liked what we got. Granted, the scale could have used some tweaking so that it looked like it was the engineering bay of a starship instead of a huge flat building, but otherwise I agree with it a lot better than any futureistic engine bay. Ryan Church's design is good-but the one we got worked better for the movie. Ditto the industrial scenes in the Kelvin-I actually did a little mental applause @ the producers making the guts of the ship visible.
I get what you're saying, but remember that management of the budget is one of the primary responsibilities of the producers. If they run out of money, and therefore have to make a choice other than the one they would have liked to have made, that is an indication that they did not properly manage the budget. Producers can't ultimately stop an actress from getting pregnant and deciding to leave a show. They can control spending in other areas so that they have enough money to build the sets that they want.
I couldn't disagree more strongly with this. It is absolutely under the control of the producers - who else makes the decision to either build sets or use standing locations? Who else makes the decision to spend money on CGI, on set-building, on location dressing, on casting, etc.?
It's Star Trek; more generally, it's science fiction based in the future on a spaceship. It's a given that sets need to be built because these locations cannot possibly exist.
This was a poorly-made choice based upon, one hopes, budgetary concerns, and not simply an artistic choice that someone felt was "good enough for Star Trek." We have every right to bitch about this, because this was entirely in their hands, and the resulting complaints were not only foreseeable, but inevitable.
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