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This Side of Paradise and Pike

I've only seen a few film clips of SNW, but my impression is that they never miss a chance to put Spock in a relationship with a hot chick. From J.J. onward, Spock seems to be all about the sex, with no ponn farr required.
So, just like TOS then.
Spock's had two relationships in SNW. T'Pring and Chapel.
Why would Vulcans need Ponn Farr for sex? Sarek probably didn't.
 
I've only seen a few film clips of SNW, but my impression is that they never miss a chance to put Spock in a relationship with a hot chick. From J.J. onward, Spock seems to be all about the sex, with no ponn farr required.
From JJ onward?


DROXINE: You only take a mate once every seven years?
SPOCK: The seven-year cycle is biologically inherent in all Vulcan's. At that time, the mating drive outweighs all other motivations.
DROXINE: And is there nothing that can disturb that cycle, Mister Spock?
SPOCK: Extreme feminine beauty is always disturbing, madam.

ETA: Also, agree with Santa Kang too.
 
No less an authority than D.C. Fontana felt strongly that Vulcans NEEDED to mate during pon farr, but they didn't ONLY have sex during pon farr. They could and did have sex outside the seven-year-cycle.

And, yes, Spock has always been a sex symbol. On TOS alone, he had short-lived romances with both Leila Kalomi and Zarabeth. Granted, he was not in his right mind either time, but it's not as though TOS refrained from giving Spock a hot romance once a season or so.
 
That almost never happens.
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I've only seen a few film clips of SNW, but my impression is that they never miss a chance to put Spock in a relationship with a hot chick. From J.J. onward, Spock seems to be all about the sex, with no ponn farr required.

In my headcanon, I just see Spock as rather a shy person in his years under Pike, not the person who is having one relationship after another. In "Where No Man..." he's more demonstrative, but even Nimoy says he wished he could have shot over several of the early scenes where he was trying to find the character to edit out Spock's rather emotional behavior. SNW's Spock hardly seems "alien." I think that gets lost in both the reboots and DISC and SNW. He could be a human with pointed ears. Nimoy's Spock was much more "alien."
 
Meh, it could work.

I'm liking the suggestion that Leila had an unrequited crush on Spock after they met but otherwise they didn't actually get involved.

I'm with you on it.

I would rather see an episode where a male crewman had a crush on Spock and see how they handle it.

Or hey, how about an episode where he's just friends with a woman and she couldn't care about him sexually.

I'm a a little tired of the unrequited love trope. It threw such a wrench in TOS as far as Chapel's character, who I actually liked. She's great in the Nomad episode, and she's great in Obsession. I think by the time of Plato's StepChildren, she was over it, and her "I just want to crawl in a hole and die," comment reflects that she had grown past that and here it was being used against her.
 
I'm a a little tired of the unrequited love trope. It threw such a wrench in TOS as far as Chapel's character, who I actually liked. She's great in the Nomad episode, and she's great in Obsession. I think by the time of Plato's StepChildren, she was over it, and her "I just want to crawl in a hole and die," comment reflects that she had grown past that and here it was being used against her.

Nice idea, but unfortunately TAS: "Mudd's Passion" demonstrates otherwise. Her crush is at its most pathetic there. One could conceivably pretend it took place before "Plato's," but that would require Harry's escapades in between (escape from the robot planet, Ilyria VI, Sirius IX, Motherlode) to happen in an implausibly short amount of time.
 
Nice idea, but unfortunately TAS: "Mudd's Passion" demonstrates otherwise. Her crush is at its most pathetic there. One could conceivably pretend it took place before "Plato's," but that would require Harry's escapades in between (escape from the robot planet, Ilyria VI, Sirius IX, Motherlode) to happen in an implausibly short amount of time.

Dang, I forgot about that. But I still think she was an interesting character that got wasted on an unrequited passion. I would like to believe her story was bigger than that, especially since she was a scientist and physician in her own right. I think that it's in your book that she gets some scope as an expert in xenobiology whose knowledge rivals McCoy's.
 
Dang, I forgot about that. But I still think she was an interesting character that got wasted on an unrequited passion. I would like to believe her story was bigger than that, especially since she was a scientist and physician in her own right.

That's the great thing about Strange New Worlds's take on Chapel. It's really enriched her as a character and recontextualized her later TOS-era "crush" on Spock as the aftermath of an actual past relationship that she wants to rekindle and Spock doesn't. So it doesn't just feel like a pathetic schoolgirl infatuation anymore, and it's in the context of a more fully drawn personality.


I think that it's in your book that she gets some scope as an expert in xenobiology whose knowledge rivals McCoy's.

It's been a long time since Ex Machina, but as I recall, I wrote her as being more qualified in xenomedicine because she was going to be the CMO of the TMP-era Enterprise with its diverse multispecies crew that we glimpsed in the rec deck scene. It stood to reason she'd need that knowledge. So her grasp of xenomedicine actually surpassed McCoy's at that point, but once he recognized his deficiency, he dedicated himself to becoming more knowledgeable on the subject, because we know that, according to Voyager's EMH, McCoy literally wrote the book on Comparative Alien Physiology. (Although somehow he must've failed to gain any expertise in Klingon physiology, as we see in TUC.)
 
...we know that, according to Voyager's EMH, McCoy literally wrote the book on Comparative Alien Physiology. (Although somehow he must've failed to gain any expertise in Klingon physiology, as we see in TUC.)
He was incompetent. Whether deliberately or as a result of age combined with drink, the court will have to determine. ;)
 
Leila Kalomi is about due to turn up and meet Spock...I can totally see that happening in SNW season 3.

I mean, TSoD takes place in 2266, Leila met Spock 6 years before that, and I believe SNW has now reached 2260, so...? ;)

I’m sure they will. Originality is not the strong suit of SNW.
 
Nimoy-Spock was looking for tail only when he was out of his mind, in "Amok Time" and "All Our Yesterdays." Even the intoxicating Psi 2000 contaminant didn't unleash his sexuality; it revealed sorrowful alienation. In "The Cloud Minders," he was exchanging cultural info with Droxine, and he acknowledged only an abstract attraction to her.

SNW Spock, that I haven't seen much of, might be on solid ground as a younger version haulin' oats before "The Cage"— but he hardly seems like the same character. He's what they want to do today. That's fine, but I doubt I'd take him to heart like Nimoy-Spock.

Enter JJ-Spock, a fully formed senior officer, in his right mind and voraciously sucking face with Uhura. Seems legit. :vulcan:

Like so many re-boots, these projects ride in on the name-recognition of the original, but often just use the names to sell otherwise unrecognizable characters.
 
No idea. I could barely sit through the first season.
You'll have to explain to me how exploring Spock and T'Pring's relationship or Spock and Chapel's constitutes
I've only seen a few film clips of SNW, but my impression is that they never miss a chance to put Spock in a relationship with a hot chick. From J.J. onward, Spock seems to be all about the sex, with no ponn farr required.
Or perhaps where in those episodes you could barely sit through show
-Spock was looking for tail
As Zap so elegantly phrased it.
 
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