This looks like a pretty badass ship.
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It supposedly did take O'Brien some preparation to arm the runabouts with torpedoes for "Jem'Hadar" - so I'd like to believe in a special torpedo-launching (torpedo-dropping?) module amidships, one that replaces living quarters or laboratory spaces and thus is rarely carried. The dorsal pod would be a vital targeting aid, but capable of sharing the targeting data with a formation of runabouts...
I wouldn't necessarily have wanted to see all-new module shapes, as those would have made the using of existing footage rather difficult. But it would have been nice to film a sequence where a runabout sits in its hangar (as seen in "In the Pale Moonlight") and a crane system installs a new amidships module. All the modules would of course look identical for visual convenience (and for a good practical reason, as they'd need to fit in the same slot!), but seeing the act of swapping would allow the writers to establish that something special needed for today's episode is being installed... Not just for the Thunderbirds feel, but to highlight the fact that these are rather small craft and may not be capable of all the usual tricks without some pre-thought and preparation.
Timo Saloniemi
I wouldn't necessarily have wanted to see all-new module shapes, as those would have made the using of existing footage rather difficult. But it would have been nice to film a sequence where a runabout sits in its hangar (as seen in "In the Pale Moonlight") and a crane system installs a new amidships module. All the modules would of course look identical for visual convenience (and for a good practical reason, as they'd need to fit in the same slot!), but seeing the act of swapping would allow the writers to establish that something special needed for today's episode is being installed... Not just for the Thunderbirds feel, but to highlight the fact that these are rather small craft and may not be capable of all the usual tricks without some pre-thought and preparation.
Timo Saloniemi
Designing the bad ass ship 
, www.startrek.com/article/designing-the-defiant
, www.startrek.com/article/designing-the-defiant
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I found this on facebook.. I think this ship is pretty badass.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10103986349126227&set=gm.496027373893359&type=1&theater
I would use words like "ugly," "busy," "bulky," and "extraneous". I hate it when ships are built to look super awesome but just end up looking like a designer said "slap a gun fucking everywhere on it".
It all looks pointless. This ship will be meant for battle in space, so someone said "let's put lots of things on it that stick out and can be shot off." That's what I get out of it.
I found this on facebook.. I think this ship is pretty badass.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10103986349126227&set=gm.496027373893359&type=1&theater
I would use words like "ugly," "busy," "bulky," and "extraneous". I hate it when ships are built to look super awesome but just end up looking like a designer said "slap a gun fucking everywhere on it".
It all looks pointless. This ship will be meant for battle in space, so someone said "let's put lots of things on it that stick out and can be shot off." That's what I get out of it.
I'm inclined to agree. Personally, I don't care for the Defiant design, but this makes it look good by comparison.
Lest I be accused of not being constructive here are my major points:
-The top and bottom do not appear to connect together in a meaningful way beyond the top. Because of this, it looks more like a drop ship or warp booster, similar to the Jedi starfighter in the Prequels.
Secondly, it looks cumbersome. If the runabouts are more suited to atmospheric flight (and they seem to be so) then the shape makes it unwieldy to fly.
Finally, it doesn't really look like any Starfleet vessel we have seen before. The front half looks good, and I would like to see a ship designed that flowed from that forward area.
I imagine this craft as a stop gap, before the Defiant project bears fruit.
Why? As per both the OP link and this link below at startrek.com, it was official concept art by Jim Martin.
Designing the bad ass ship
If anything, it belongs in the DS9 forum.
Beat me to it!Designing the bad ass ship
But even that article doesn't have all of the concepts created for the Defiant.
OMG this one makes me think of the Millennium Falcon
A slapped together design makes sense, so long as the old design was modular. (The Frankenstein ships were analyzed as dubious in another web site).
The Defiant project kind of/sort of made sense. The ship was a smaller starship, and the design was relatively simple-perhaps allowing rapid production?
The Sovereign class, I think, had likely been an on going project to replace the aging Excelsior class. A project that was in already well along when the Borg appeared.
The Prometheus was too complicated for a crash program-too little, too late.
The Defiant project kind of/sort of made sense. The ship was a smaller starship, and the design was relatively simple-perhaps allowing rapid production?
The Sovereign class, I think, had likely been an on going project to replace the aging Excelsior class. A project that was in already well along when the Borg appeared.
The Prometheus was too complicated for a crash program-too little, too late.
What was that ship that could fly and split into parts?
Prometheus.
That depends. There is certainly an advantage against the Jem'Hedar given their tactics.
I wouldn't necessarily say that it was an impractical design though. The MVAM is fairly similar in a lot of ways to Saucer Separation.
Plus, the more vectors of attack the better off you'd be.
Yes, but a better way to solve that problem is to use a simpler design, that you can make more of than what you'd get from separating these white elephants, and simply fly them in formation.
Yes, CorporalCaptain, this is a criticism that has been made before.
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