Thinking of a fan film, need help
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Then a brain storming session might be the next possible route - if I could suggest something in real time to better bounce ideas around, as I think that'd be more productive.
But remember this is your project - RookieBatman and myself are just prospective writers - you've got to come in with your decision making hat on and ready to go, Mr. Producer.
But remember this is your project - RookieBatman and myself are just prospective writers - you've got to come in with your decision making hat on and ready to go, Mr. Producer.
Are you planning to do a one-off "feature," or a series? If you're thinking about SoVF, I guess that would be more like a single feature.
Interesting. I'll have to look back into my outdated list of ideas and see if there's anything usable in there. Let me ask, though, what kind of tone are you looking for? Do you want it to be primarily action, or exploration? A little of both? Could you, perhaps, list a few key episodes of Star Trek (particularly the original series, if you're a fan, since that's the one I'm most familiar with) that have a similar feel to the atmosphere of what you have in mind? (For instance, if I were making my own feature, I would probably give it the fully ship-based, bottled feel of episodes like "The Corbomite Maneuver," "Balance of Terror," and "Journey to Babel." I like them in part because I'm a fan of bold strategizing and maneuvering; an added bonus, though, is that doing something where it's pretty much all in the ship would have fewer sets.) Anyway, the intention of that example is not really to steer your thinking, but just to give you an example of how listing some episodes the theme of which you'd like to emulate might give us more of an idea of what you're looking for.
Interesting. I'll have to look back into my outdated list of ideas and see if there's anything usable in there. Let me ask, though, what kind of tone are you looking for? Do you want it to be primarily action, or exploration? A little of both? Could you, perhaps, list a few key episodes of Star Trek (particularly the original series, if you're a fan, since that's the one I'm most familiar with) that have a similar feel to the atmosphere of what you have in mind? (For instance, if I were making my own feature, I would probably give it the fully ship-based, bottled feel of episodes like "The Corbomite Maneuver," "Balance of Terror," and "Journey to Babel." I like them in part because I'm a fan of bold strategizing and maneuvering; an added bonus, though, is that doing something where it's pretty much all in the ship would have fewer sets.) Anyway, the intention of that example is not really to steer your thinking, but just to give you an example of how listing some episodes the theme of which you'd like to emulate might give us more of an idea of what you're looking for.
Yeah - that's where I was trying to lead (but not stating so directly
) with my questions about what you could build both real world and CG. If you can come up with a concept that works as a bottle show... that, I think, will work out so much better for you on the first time out when you've got plenty of other things on your plate to be worried about than trying to build all the sets.RookieBatman also asked a good question with whether it's a one time trip or series. That'll change the impact of the story. Even if it's intended to be more than a one time trip, do you view it as episodic or sequels? (IE: A weekly tv show vs. a movie that comes out every 3 years or so) - the answers to those questions will have a drastic affect on how the writing is done.
Alternatively, if you want to just turn RookieBatman and I loose, give us some very basic but clear guidelines and we could each (either collectively or individually) come back to you with a handful of pitches to try and find the right story.
(On that note, if either of you wanted to see samples of my stuff... or just trust me on blind faith that I (think I) know what I'm doing... let me know how to send them to you
)My problem is going to be that I have too much trust in people. But I will want to see some samples of what you can do within the project.
The basic concept of the story should be centered with a dark tone roughly a few years after Spock was seen in the TNG episode "Unification". I was thinking of a story that had something to do with the unification of the Romulan people after some negotiations. During this time some information is recorded about the Fury which the Vulcan high council finds to have some conspiritors on both sides working to bring life to that old project (if this makes sense).
I will rephrase: The high council finds out that there are vulcans and romuluns working together to revive the long dead project.
This is just a small brainstorm of an idea. The story really can go anywhere (because we will probably make it all up).
I was also thinking of asking for help from Dorothy Fontana (who wrote the thing in the first place). Maybe she can shed a little light on what she thought the story line should have.
Like I said we have a lot of liberties with this show. I want this to specifically be a feature instead of a show just because I think we can make a better production by giving ourselves more time to work on this project.
I would really like a lot of people to become involved and see what we can do. Shoot I have a contact at Paramount that I can run this by and see if we can get some support (after we write the script).
The basic concept of the story should be centered with a dark tone roughly a few years after Spock was seen in the TNG episode "Unification". I was thinking of a story that had something to do with the unification of the Romulan people after some negotiations. During this time some information is recorded about the Fury which the Vulcan high council finds to have some conspiritors on both sides working to bring life to that old project (if this makes sense).
I will rephrase: The high council finds out that there are vulcans and romuluns working together to revive the long dead project.
This is just a small brainstorm of an idea. The story really can go anywhere (because we will probably make it all up).
I was also thinking of asking for help from Dorothy Fontana (who wrote the thing in the first place). Maybe she can shed a little light on what she thought the story line should have.
Like I said we have a lot of liberties with this show. I want this to specifically be a feature instead of a show just because I think we can make a better production by giving ourselves more time to work on this project.
I would really like a lot of people to become involved and see what we can do. Shoot I have a contact at Paramount that I can run this by and see if we can get some support (after we write the script).
Well, I would say don't get your hopes up about Fontana. I'm not saying don't try, because it's always good to dream big, just don't expect it.
It sounds like you're not looking for the traditional ship/crew Trek format, but more of just a basic dramatic/political/adventure story that takes place in the Trek universe, and maybe deals with Spock? That is, do you intend to have a starship bridge crew as the main characters, or somebody more like Jack Ryan in Hunt For Red October? (Or had you not decided yet? That's fine, too.) Most people are used to seeing Starfleeters as the heroes of a Trek story, but it might be interesting to go for something a bit more germane, like (just off the top of my head), Spock and Saavik, with a Romulan confederate, and a couple non-Starfleet humans. Just the same, Starfleet is the heart of the Trek-verse, so we would probably want to have a starship captain, (and his ship/crew) at least as a supporting character, but it would kinda be interesting to do a feature where the captain wasn't the star.
The other thing I should mention is that, like I said, I'm really most familiar with the TOS era, and as far as continuity references and historical-period accuracy for a later era, I'll pretty much be no help. But if someone else can furnish that aspect, I'll certainly be able to help with the more story-based plot elements.
Any of this sound good to you?
It sounds like you're not looking for the traditional ship/crew Trek format, but more of just a basic dramatic/political/adventure story that takes place in the Trek universe, and maybe deals with Spock? That is, do you intend to have a starship bridge crew as the main characters, or somebody more like Jack Ryan in Hunt For Red October? (Or had you not decided yet? That's fine, too.) Most people are used to seeing Starfleeters as the heroes of a Trek story, but it might be interesting to go for something a bit more germane, like (just off the top of my head), Spock and Saavik, with a Romulan confederate, and a couple non-Starfleet humans. Just the same, Starfleet is the heart of the Trek-verse, so we would probably want to have a starship captain, (and his ship/crew) at least as a supporting character, but it would kinda be interesting to do a feature where the captain wasn't the star.
The other thing I should mention is that, like I said, I'm really most familiar with the TOS era, and as far as continuity references and historical-period accuracy for a later era, I'll pretty much be no help. But if someone else can furnish that aspect, I'll certainly be able to help with the more story-based plot elements.
Any of this sound good to you?
I intentionally didn't say this earlier, but I'm much more comfortable in modern Trek (I've not even seen most TOS episodes!) . Given that you say you'd like to be a few years after Spock's appearance in Unification, we are definitely playing into my strong suit era.
Unification took place in 2368, so we're looking around 2371 depending on your definition of "few." If you bump that to 2372 you have the Federation pretty preoccupied with not only the emerging Dominion, but also the sudden Klingon aggression via changling Martok. That would be plenty of cover to keep Federation eyes off the Romulan empire, allowing them a relatively unsupervised attempt to try something.
Unification took place in 2368, so we're looking around 2371 depending on your definition of "few." If you bump that to 2372 you have the Federation pretty preoccupied with not only the emerging Dominion, but also the sudden Klingon aggression via changling Martok. That would be plenty of cover to keep Federation eyes off the Romulan empire, allowing them a relatively unsupervised attempt to try something.
The idea is to steer clear of Starfleet in most of the story. I really want this to involve the Vulcans (reasons why I want this as the potential story).
Can the deep dark Vulcan toy come out to play?
Even if Fontana doesn't help (I sure like to know how she got involved with OG&M and NV) then we can come up with a story all of our own.
Can the deep dark Vulcan toy come out to play?
Even if Fontana doesn't help (I sure like to know how she got involved with OG&M and NV) then we can come up with a story all of our own.
