Personally, I'm going to say Scotty's sidekick, should have him sucked out into space at the beginning of the new movie...
Things you wouldn't like to see return for a sequel
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The Spock/Uhura romance. It is one thing when you have a series to develop a romance but when you have a two hour film I think there are a lot of other things I'd rather see get the time. Besides, Trek romances more often than not never were that interesting and this one looks to be in that same mold.
I actually liked Scotty's little buddy. I wouldn't mind seeing him again.
I actually liked Scotty's little buddy. I wouldn't mind seeing him again.
Scotty's every single line being comedy. I like Simon Pegg, and it was funny, but he was CONSTANT comic relief, plus he had a wacky sidekick. Meh.
An engineering set that doesn't look like the Titanic's.
No more Uhura/Spock shipper stuff.
Fewer lens flares. FAR fewer.
A bridge redesign
No more Uhura/Spock shipper stuff.
Fewer lens flares. FAR fewer.
A bridge redesign
Lens Flares
JJ's little monster, after all it was his idea to create that thinggie, if he MUST stay make him a believable engineer, same applies with scotty.
Reduce the jokes and lens flares to half or one third.
Let Captain kirk grow his hair. Why did you leave everyone else with their classics haircuts (including chekov) and then try to give kirk a fubar monster on his head? He looks a lot better with longer hair anyway.
No more wide angle shots in engineering, they just fail. (Giant factory anyone?)
No more weird aliens, show some star trek aliens too.
Reduce the jokes and lens flares to half or one third.
Let Captain kirk grow his hair. Why did you leave everyone else with their classics haircuts (including chekov) and then try to give kirk a fubar monster on his head? He looks a lot better with longer hair anyway.
No more wide angle shots in engineering, they just fail. (Giant factory anyone?)
No more weird aliens, show some star trek aliens too.
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I pretty much loved everything in the film so would like everything back except the Spock Uhura romance, it just didn't gel with me, in fact it made me cringe.
I think the Spock Uhura thing will go by the board, there may be regs about relationships between crew of different ranks, even if they're all command staff.
Less lens flare.
Scotty being a bit more serious.
A grittier/deeper story with fewer holes. Hey, I liked it, but it can only be better for it if they do that.
I'd like to see Kirk testd again, but in a different way. I suppose that the core of a lot of Trek stories hang on the mettle of this man, and I'd like to see it tested again.
Less lens flare.
Scotty being a bit more serious.
A grittier/deeper story with fewer holes. Hey, I liked it, but it can only be better for it if they do that.
I'd like to see Kirk testd again, but in a different way. I suppose that the core of a lot of Trek stories hang on the mettle of this man, and I'd like to see it tested again.
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It's funny how the little things bug us, but yeah, Engineering: the pipes are fine, but put up some fake walls (CGI or real live backdrops) that suggest Engineering is inside a curved hull in space, not a rectangular building on the ground.
I'd actually like to see them mine the drama of Spock and Uhura's relationship ending, as he tries to become more Vulcan and hence, more distant.
I'd actually like to see them mine the drama of Spock and Uhura's relationship ending, as he tries to become more Vulcan and hence, more distant.
Simon Pegg.
I'd like to see Engineering with a bit more structure. Didnt like the new look at all, but if we must have concrete coated Engineering decks, could they at least has some sense of organisation and reasoning behind them.
I'd like to see Engineering with a bit more structure. Didnt like the new look at all, but if we must have concrete coated Engineering decks, could they at least has some sense of organisation and reasoning behind them.
Yeah...I too would like to see the brewery go...
Film it on a US NAVY ship (retired even - like "Silent Running" did) and I think it will look better...(maybe use a sub for the really lower decks or something...)
And I also megaditto the lens flares...have to go - Starfleet needs to develop an lens-flare dampening field...
And lose ALL of those silly useless extra lights on the bridge - like the one's pointing *down* on the ops & con displays!!! (Though oddly - onscreen - when actually watching the movie - I didn't notice them as much as in the stills...but still (no pun) - they are silly and pointless and unrealistic - even anti-functional - and just need to GO!!!)
But I say keep the Uhura-Spock romance....but deepen it. (I'd like to see a bit less mooning puppy-love - and a bit more of what makes it tick...like, what Uhura sees in Spock - and he in her...and how they interact as a regular couple...)
I also say keep the little guy - I like him! Normally (as an adult) I'd *cringe* at the cutsey comic-relief alien side-kick (opposed to when I was a child and would have *adored* that sort of thing - like the young children Keenser was likely meant to appeal too)...
But for some reason he just doesn't bother me - like a Jar-Jar or an Ewok do now. I dunno...I know I should cringe, but I actually found him interesting!
(But I totally agree with the poster before who said that he needs to be fleshed out and made to be an actual useful engineer...yes, I would like to see him in the next movie show of some made Engineering-fu skilz! And not be just a cute funny-looking short dude...but a valuable member of the team!)
You know...originally I would have said "and lose those plexi-glass giant domino-shaped displays!"...but now that I've seen them in action - I think they are plausible descendants of those pole-mounted screens we saw in ENT on Columbia - and later on the 10-years older Enterprise...same function ~ 100 years-advanced tech!
Film it on a US NAVY ship (retired even - like "Silent Running" did) and I think it will look better...(maybe use a sub for the really lower decks or something...)
And I also megaditto the lens flares...have to go - Starfleet needs to develop an lens-flare dampening field...
And lose ALL of those silly useless extra lights on the bridge - like the one's pointing *down* on the ops & con displays!!! (Though oddly - onscreen - when actually watching the movie - I didn't notice them as much as in the stills...but still (no pun) - they are silly and pointless and unrealistic - even anti-functional - and just need to GO!!!)
But I say keep the Uhura-Spock romance....but deepen it. (I'd like to see a bit less mooning puppy-love - and a bit more of what makes it tick...like, what Uhura sees in Spock - and he in her...and how they interact as a regular couple...)
I also say keep the little guy - I like him! Normally (as an adult) I'd *cringe* at the cutsey comic-relief alien side-kick (opposed to when I was a child and would have *adored* that sort of thing - like the young children Keenser was likely meant to appeal too)...
But for some reason he just doesn't bother me - like a Jar-Jar or an Ewok do now. I dunno...I know I should cringe, but I actually found him interesting!
(But I totally agree with the poster before who said that he needs to be fleshed out and made to be an actual useful engineer...yes, I would like to see him in the next movie show of some made Engineering-fu skilz! And not be just a cute funny-looking short dude...but a valuable member of the team!)
You know...originally I would have said "and lose those plexi-glass giant domino-shaped displays!"...but now that I've seen them in action - I think they are plausible descendants of those pole-mounted screens we saw in ENT on Columbia - and later on the 10-years older Enterprise...same function ~ 100 years-advanced tech!
^I wouldn't mind even seeing something that follows the same brewery-tanks in rows layout we saw in some scenes - just replaced with something that looks just like those individual warp-core-modules that Scotty ejected near the end!
Just...they should look like warp cores - not just plain ol' beer tanks.
Even the *shape* was fine...but if they'd even just *modify* the same tanks with facades - or cgi in post - to look more like warp-core-module-tingamagigys, I'd be happier!
- Karl Urban overacting as "McCoy" - just act, damn it!
- Lens flares
- Khan (never want to see him in JJTrek - if it's a damn reboot, then reboot it, not rewrite all the old stuff! Heck, I could watch ENT if I wanted to see that!)
- The brewery - build a real set, or even a virtual one, but don't redress a brewery, for Pete's sake!
- Chekov - really didn't care for the new Doogie Howser on the bridge.
- Crap like "red matter." At least 'warp drive' has a purpose - it would be nice to have a story that hinges on something better than a weak MacGuffin.
- An Orion (presumably) made with worse makeup than Susan Oliver's!
No more brewry sets. This is not realism, this is Space Mutiny.
Rappelling. Yes, there were several Starfleet officers in the background in one of the Kelvin shots rappelling down from the ceiling all at once. Did we stumble upon a Michael Bay movie all of a sudden?.......oh wait. Michael Bay directed Armageddon, which was written by JJ Abrams, which also featured oil well workers.......RAPPELLING!
No more 10 to 1 male/female ratio. Star Trek needs more strong capable women, not useless supporting ones.
No Shaky Cam. It's a cheap trick that's used to hide the fact that you can't choreograph an action scene. And why the heck use it on scenes where characters are only just talking to each other?
No more 'lens flare style' shooting. We want there to be a bright future ahead of us metaphorically, not literally.
No more flawless Kirk. There was nothing for him to overcome in this movie that made him a better person than he was from the start. He was a jerk from the beginning, he's still a jerk now.
No more CGI enhanced facial featured humans to pass off as aliens. Aliens are best when they look incredibly different from us, not "They're human, but have huge eyes".
No more villains with a "I hate everything for no reason" agenda.
No more attempts to make the crew bada**. Giving Spock emotions shouldn't equal "Peace is good, but I prefer their deaths more".
No more 'fate' or 'destiney' crap. This would have been a far more interesting flick if they didn't introduce ALL of the original crew in one sitting. I'm not opposed to introducing new characters we've never met before in place of the ones we're used to.
No more 'womanizing' attitude from Kirk. I've seen all of the original series and I could only count three times that son of a glitch has ever had sex and times where he's resisted the charms of a very attractive woman. I'm not asking for the old Kirk back, just give us something with a lot more dignity than what we have now.
No more product placements. Did you hear that? Let me make it a little more clear. NO MORE PRODUCT PLACEMENTS!!!!
Rappelling. Yes, there were several Starfleet officers in the background in one of the Kelvin shots rappelling down from the ceiling all at once. Did we stumble upon a Michael Bay movie all of a sudden?.......oh wait. Michael Bay directed Armageddon, which was written by JJ Abrams, which also featured oil well workers.......RAPPELLING!
No more 10 to 1 male/female ratio. Star Trek needs more strong capable women, not useless supporting ones.
No Shaky Cam. It's a cheap trick that's used to hide the fact that you can't choreograph an action scene. And why the heck use it on scenes where characters are only just talking to each other?
No more 'lens flare style' shooting. We want there to be a bright future ahead of us metaphorically, not literally.
No more flawless Kirk. There was nothing for him to overcome in this movie that made him a better person than he was from the start. He was a jerk from the beginning, he's still a jerk now.
No more CGI enhanced facial featured humans to pass off as aliens. Aliens are best when they look incredibly different from us, not "They're human, but have huge eyes".
No more villains with a "I hate everything for no reason" agenda.
No more attempts to make the crew bada**. Giving Spock emotions shouldn't equal "Peace is good, but I prefer their deaths more".
No more 'fate' or 'destiney' crap. This would have been a far more interesting flick if they didn't introduce ALL of the original crew in one sitting. I'm not opposed to introducing new characters we've never met before in place of the ones we're used to.
No more 'womanizing' attitude from Kirk. I've seen all of the original series and I could only count three times that son of a glitch has ever had sex and times where he's resisted the charms of a very attractive woman. I'm not asking for the old Kirk back, just give us something with a lot more dignity than what we have now.
No more product placements. Did you hear that? Let me make it a little more clear. NO MORE PRODUCT PLACEMENTS!!!!
On the first point, I disagree. I thought he did a good job.
But on the next two points, I totally agree. Nothing against the actor, but Chekov was poorly casted.
Add "or episode" and that's my list. New story, please, not a rework of a Star Trek story already seen.
That's stretching it a bit, don't you think? I'm not an Abrams cheerleader, particularly, haven't been a fan of his other work to speak of (least of all Armageddon) but given that the writing credits for Armageddon read like this:
...and given that Abrams didn't write the Star Trek screenplay, how can you conclusively lay responsibility for rappelling at his feet in either movie?
On the other hand, your raising the subject did have the side-benefit of reminding me of this rather amusing post from the "Super Hi Res Enterprise" thread back in January:...so I guess it's all okay.
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