I mean canon film and television, but it's cool to know they've gotten some love outside the big and small screens.
Things you HATED about this show. As much as there are positives about STD there is much CRINGE!
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A mention of the Xindi in general would be nice(without having to mention the crisis), or even just seeing one. Actually, yeah, just seeing one somewhere, either working on the ship or elsewhere, in the same or similar make-up, without any reference dialogue.
Because subtlety is for kings.
Because subtlety is for kings.
People see what they want to see. If the entire basis of my dislike for the show is that it is "grim and humorless," I'm sure as hell not going to acknowledge the moments of lightness and levity that have been inserted into the show thus far.
I feel it's a bit odd that we have to accept "Burnham has spend 7 years on the Shenzhou". I'm not sure that the crew acted like they had known each other for 7 years? Maybe it would have worked better if Burnham had been raised Klingon (for some reason - (think tng - Suddenly Human), then was injured in a ship accident which killed her adoptive Klingon family (uncertain what her age would be at that time. Child? 15? 20?), with serious memory loss and brain trauma, and Sarek had to meld with her to keep her alive long enough for a specialist in human brain trauma to get to Michael and save her. Her memories of her time with the Klingons might warrant hiding her existence for secret debriefing about Klingon life (hence Spock would not know her)? Maybe the Federation would try to rehabilitate her, but it didn't work, so Sarek ended up leading the rehab on Vulcan (because the meld made her more open to interacting with him?). And, so, instead of spending 7 years in Starfleet and becoming the first officer (is she a Commander or Lieutenant Commander?), she join's the Shenzhou a few months, weeks or days before the encounter with the Klingons, as a Klingon culture specialist? Which would help explain how comes the crew doesn't seem to know or work that well with her?
Oh yeah, and that "mind meld communication across millions of miles like it's the Force". 
I might have OK if they'd done it like a cross of "Head-six" from Battlestar Galactica, and the "I'm sorry, my responses are limited, you must ask the right questions" thing from I, Robot. Maybe have "Head-Sarek" be just a personification/representation of what Michael thinks Sarek would say, "Head-Sarek" only appearing sometimes when Michael is in deep Vulcan mediation. Maybe Sarek's katra from his meld with Michael forms the core of Michael's deepest thoughts (essentially, Michael is mostly talking to herself, maybe when she has a problem she's stuck on. But narratively on screen we avoid the problem of her literally talking to herself, as she is talking to a representation of Sarek (i.e.; almost as if she were talking to a hologram of Sarek rather than the real Sarek). I hope I explained that ok.
I might have OK if they'd done it like a cross of "Head-six" from Battlestar Galactica, and the "I'm sorry, my responses are limited, you must ask the right questions" thing from I, Robot. Maybe have "Head-Sarek" be just a personification/representation of what Michael thinks Sarek would say, "Head-Sarek" only appearing sometimes when Michael is in deep Vulcan mediation. Maybe Sarek's katra from his meld with Michael forms the core of Michael's deepest thoughts (essentially, Michael is mostly talking to herself, maybe when she has a problem she's stuck on. But narratively on screen we avoid the problem of her literally talking to herself, as she is talking to a representation of Sarek (i.e.; almost as if she were talking to a hologram of Sarek rather than the real Sarek). I hope I explained that ok.
Oh yeah, and that "mind meld communication across millions of miles like it's the Force".
At the risk of pointing out canon, telepathy has never been limited by distance in Star Trek. There was that psychic couple who Troi was going to marry the male member of. Then there was the fact Spock could sense V'Ger across the Quadrant.
"Head Sarek" would be something like the mainfestation of "our" Archer that appears and talks to Mirror Archer in "IaMD"? Basically the voice in her head that represents the more ethical or moral side of the character wrestling with the impetuous and Machiavellian side that wants to do the easier and more emotionally satisfying thing in a given situation?
Not to mention Spock himself violently sensing the deaths of over 400 Vulcans aboard the starship Intrepid while it was still many, many light years away from the Enterprise. Vulcans have been established to be a species with some pretty impressive psychic powers that transcend physical distance, though the Sarek-Burnham mind meld pushes credibility even for Trek's vaunted Vulcan abilities and talents.
If you're going to do a fictional superpower, there's no reason why it can't follow its own rules vs. physics. Maybe space/time doesn't exist in Psychic Plane.
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Hell with quantum entanglement, there actually is no reason it can't be possible. SOME things exist that way in RL. In this case, Sarek and Burnham's souls are linked via katra and the katra is the same across the universe.
Like, oh, say Spock and McCoy were in III.
Just don't have Sarek say "I just got out of my sonic shower when I sensed you were in physical danger. Forgive my lack of clothing, Michael. It's nothing you didn't see as a child" and I'll be fine with it.
Even if it was a deliberate jab at Trump supporters, due to the worldwide reach Star Trek has, it sounded more like a commentary on the rise of Far Right politics everywhere. That type of rhetoric preached by DSC's Klingons is something you can find on manifestos of parties like Front National, UKIP, AfD, Lega Nord, etc.
Well, I like it. My favorite TOS Movie is The Undiscovered Country exactly because of that attitude of trying to keep up with current global events. I personally believe that's something Star Trek should always do.
Overall I like the show, but there are some issues that I have with it:
The spore drive seems worse than technobabble to me. It seems like New Age Deepak Chopra-type bullshit. I don't care that they have some new experimental tech that they will at some point have to abandon, but mushrooms that are connected to the fabric of the universe? Midichlorians undermined a dramatically intriguing element of the Star Wars mythos by turning it into a disappointing plot device, and I feel like this does the same with Trek tech. I hope that the writers of the show have some sense of how this is going to be explored and eventually resolved as a story element.
The spinning saucer section, as well as the segmentation of the saucer that makes it appear pretty structurally weak to me. I don't see the point in the spinning other than as an attention grabber, but if they can give some sort of useful explanation for it I will accept it.
The Klingons being so fully redesigned seems very unnecessarily jarring to me. It is very hard to reconcile the look of the Klingons here with that portrayed in future series, especially with the explanation for prior discrepancies in appearance being ignored here. I can't really see these people producing Worf, or Martok, or even General Chang as we've known them from prior incarnations of Trek.
It just doesn't fit the framework of the rest of Trek for me yet. Maybe it will with time.
The spore drive seems worse than technobabble to me. It seems like New Age Deepak Chopra-type bullshit. I don't care that they have some new experimental tech that they will at some point have to abandon, but mushrooms that are connected to the fabric of the universe? Midichlorians undermined a dramatically intriguing element of the Star Wars mythos by turning it into a disappointing plot device, and I feel like this does the same with Trek tech. I hope that the writers of the show have some sense of how this is going to be explored and eventually resolved as a story element.
The spinning saucer section, as well as the segmentation of the saucer that makes it appear pretty structurally weak to me. I don't see the point in the spinning other than as an attention grabber, but if they can give some sort of useful explanation for it I will accept it.
The Klingons being so fully redesigned seems very unnecessarily jarring to me. It is very hard to reconcile the look of the Klingons here with that portrayed in future series, especially with the explanation for prior discrepancies in appearance being ignored here. I can't really see these people producing Worf, or Martok, or even General Chang as we've known them from prior incarnations of Trek.
It just doesn't fit the framework of the rest of Trek for me yet. Maybe it will with time.
I genuinely hate the cannibalism thing and the fact we can't hear the Klingons in English.
the Klingons part confused me and episode 4 seems like a ron moore battlestar galactica episode than star trek