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Things you HATED about this show. As much as there are positives about STD there is much CRINGE!

Neopeius said:
I never, for a moment, believed this was a professional and competent crew of a starship. Or even a houseboat.
From the very first scene, where the 1st Officer is telling her Captain why they're on this hostile world ONLY AFTER THEY'VE BEAMED DOWN! Really?

Then there's the stupid little lazy bits that show a scriptwriter doesn't care about consistency or verisimilitude -- everything is on by the seat of pant:

Like when Michael tells her Captain, down to the second, when the storm will be upon them. And then it's there immediately. Significant digits, anyone?

Or the Captain, making an Trek Delta as a signal... so the Shenzhou can see the ground just fine optically, but subspace doesn't work, and neither the Captain nor Number One have any kind of optical beacon (which they have in TOS, by the way).

Or Mr. Suru, who looks super alien and acts completely human. Why make a crewperson alien if they're going to be human?

Or that stupid, stupid scene where Michael bumps Mr. Suru aside to give the Captain data on the Klingon ship because this freaking Lt. Commander science officer is just too dumb to get the info.

Or the optical scanners of the ship don't work, but a three inch refractor does.

Or Michael, after being radiation-singed, getting up from sick bay to talk to her Captain on the bridge... I do believe they have intercoms in the future. Even holo-ones.

Speaking of which, how about that Holo-Skype that works without time delay across dozens of light years?

And, of course, old chestnuts like ships having to be about five feet from each other to do combat. No, it wasn't like that in TOS. Yes, it's been like that since Star Trek II. Yes, it was stupid then.

Lazy, lazy.

(for those who will say, "It's sci-fi! Don't nitpick!" I'm not asking for my reality, but I am asking for a consistent, plausible reality.)
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All of your stuff would apply to every single Star Trek more or less.

Also, why would we want aliens who are aliens?

Star Trek is about now, not the future.
 
Neopeius said:
I never, for a moment, believed this was a professional and competent crew of a starship. Or even a houseboat.
From the very first scene, where the 1st Officer is telling her Captain why they're on this hostile world ONLY AFTER THEY'VE BEAMED DOWN! Really?

Then there's the stupid little lazy bits that show a scriptwriter doesn't care about consistency or verisimilitude -- everything is on by the seat of pant:

Like when Michael tells her Captain, down to the second, when the storm will be upon them. And then it's there immediately. Significant digits, anyone?

Or the Captain, making an Trek Delta as a signal... so the Shenzhou can see the ground just fine optically, but subspace doesn't work, and neither the Captain nor Number One have any kind of optical beacon (which they have in TOS, by the way).

Or Mr. Suru, who looks super alien and acts completely human. Why make a crewperson alien if they're going to be human?

Or that stupid, stupid scene where Michael bumps Mr. Suru aside to give the Captain data on the Klingon ship because this freaking Lt. Commander science officer is just too dumb to get the info.

Or the optical scanners of the ship don't work, but a three inch refractor does.

Or Michael, after being radiation-singed, getting up from sick bay to talk to her Captain on the bridge... I do believe they have intercoms in the future. Even holo-ones.

Speaking of which, how about that Holo-Skype that works without time delay across dozens of light years?

And, of course, old chestnuts like ships having to be about five feet from each other to do combat. No, it wasn't like that in TOS. Yes, it's been like that since Star Trek II. Yes, it was stupid then.

Lazy, lazy.

(for those who will say, "It's sci-fi! Don't nitpick!" I'm not asking for my reality, but I am asking for a consistent, plausible reality.)
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It has room to grow. It may be that the pilot episode suffers from the most studio interference. They always want to dumb things down...err I mean, make the story more accessible. I feel this way about many newer shows.
 
I hated the gruesomeness in "Context is for Kings," and skipped over entire scenes because of it.

Kor
 
Neopeius said:
From the very first scene, where the 1st Officer is telling her Captain why they're on this hostile world ONLY AFTER THEY'VE BEAMED DOWN! Really?
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It's called exposition - all stories do this "As you know..." type scenes because the audience needs information the characters should realistically already know. Pilots have to do this twice as much.
Neopeius said:
Speaking of which, how about that Holo-Skype that works without time delay across dozens of light years?
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All Trek comms have worked without time delay whenever the plot demanded it. Sisko used to talk to his old man from the very edge of Federation space all the time. Subspace, they call it, to excuse this. Again, storytelling. Waiting for a comms delay would be cumbersome and boring.
Neopeius said:
Or Mr. Suru, who looks super alien and acts completely human.
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What were you expecting from him? How does one 'act alien'?

Neopeius said:
Spock. I rest my case.
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If you think Spock is 'alien' but Saru isn't, I'm not following your definition of alien.

Neopeius said:
Or that stupid, stupid scene where Michael bumps Mr. Suru aside to give the Captain data on the Klingon ship because this freaking Lt. Commander science officer is just too dumb to get the info.
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That was deliberate, and highlighted in the episode with Saru's comment about reading off a screen.

Neopeius said:
Or Michael, after being radiation-singed, getting up from sick bay to talk to her Captain on the bridge... I do believe they have intercoms in the future. Even holo-ones.
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She wanted to be on the bridge to convince Georgiou of what she'd seen and help out. She was panicking.
 
Alot of the scenes are way too dark and make it too difficult to see the characters in the latest episode Context for kings on the Discovery and The US.S. Glenn. They've should.ve had more lights that were brighter to see what was happening in the story. When it came to the chase scenes on the U.S.S. Glen. And The mysterious creature Captain Lorca wanted to capture from the Glenn. I watched the show at a friend s house and they said they hope that future episodes aren't this dark and make it easier to know what's going on in future shows story arcs.
 
When do you guys think we'll get a first real Star Trek episode? An away mission going on a strange new world, exploring an alien society? Will it be episode 4? I doubt it, but I'm hoping for episode 5.
 
Tesophius said:
When do you guys think we'll get a first real Star Trek episode? An away mission going on a strange new world, exploring an alien society? Will it be episode 4? I doubt it, but I'm hoping for episode 5.
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Not sure if that away mission would make it more "real" Star Trek...:shrug:
 
Kor said:
I hated the gruesomeness in "Context is for Kings," and skipped over entire scenes because of it.

Kor
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Really? I rather loved them very Rob Bottin-esque body mutilations. I mean, for Trek it's pretty hard core, and the closest we got to stop like that was someone getting stuck in the floor, or the TMP transporter accident (implied gore, though.)

It was just nice to see consequences for these experiments.

I do want Discovery to get some of the white gloss back in there though. Some shine, some hope. If Discovery, the ship itself, is actually in Season 2 and not destroyed or something, I hope they repaint everything. Paint the ship TMP pearlesecent white, give the bridge some more light bulbs. Get the narrative onto a more upbeat avenue.
 
OpenMaw said:
Really? I rather loved them very Rob Bottin-esque body mutilations. I mean, for Trek it's pretty hard core, and the closest we got to stop like that was someone getting stuck in the floor, or the TMP transporter accident (implied gore, though.)

It was just nice to see consequences for these experiments.

I do want Discovery to get some of the white gloss back in there though. Some shine, some hope. If Discovery, the ship itself, is actually in Season 2 and not destroyed or something, I hope they repaint everything. Paint the ship TMP pearlesecent white, give the bridge some more light bulbs. Get the narrative onto a more upbeat avenue.
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For me, the gruesome sequences are more shocking and more what I'd want if things were brighter and shinier. It's such a contrast that you aren't expecting. Blowing Remick's head up in TNG was perfect, and shocked me that I never thought Trek would do that.

If what he production team says is true, as we proceed toward the end of season 1 and hopefully into season 2, we will start to see more TOS styling. I hope the ship remains, as that's another trope in Star Trek that's been overdone: destroy the ship.
 
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