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Things that don't add up the TNG edition

Is there a scene where data is routinely charging himself back up from the ship's power? What if he is somewhere where he can't charge himself? Would he just run down? Or is there a scene where where Data mentions his batteries?

Data should have his own power plant. He cannot be running on batteries.

Perhaps he has 'wireless charging' which automatically tops him up when needed.
 
Uhh, what about never having to eat makes Data "more humanlike"?
He does eat, & is apparently also able to use those chemicals for fuel, just like us, although he probably could subsist on much more than us, like WD-40, or dilithium crystals or what-have-you .

Quote from ST: Insurrection. Screencap from The Measure of a Man
Artim: Don't you ever get tired?
Data: My power cells continually re-charge themselves
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Data doesn't have to recharge. He self-charges via internal process(es) of some kind, which seems to include a nutrient processor & chemical fuel reaction unit, that sounds to me like a unit that renders chemical substances into fuel, & that's basically what we do with eating.

So, it stands to reason Soong would try to design something similar in his attempt to make an artificial humanoid. Data has even admitted in Hero Worship, that he does ingest things for his biosystems, which seems to support the idea. So, yeah. He fuels similar to us

His head literally sits 500 years in a cave, & can still function. I like to think he also has some futuristic battery cell, that can last a damn long time, and can absorb sources of energy in other ways too, like maybe ambient cosmic radiation, which would be available anywhere he is, & is also similar to how we derive nutrients from sunlight etc...

Again, Soong is making something that tries to approximate us, & how we operate
 
The "Times Arrow" thing I find interesting, you mean in all these hundreds of years no one ever thought to dig underground in that particular spot and they suddenly find Data's head buried there. I find that wholly remarkable.
 
It would be great if they found his head stuck on a makeshift scarecrow or something. California and Nevada have abandoned mineshafts all over the place, so it's not unusual that they'd still be there, but people would have come across it for sure, like homeless people, explorers, etc.
 
It would be great if they found his head stuck on a makeshift scarecrow or something. California and Nevada have abandoned mineshafts all over the place, so it's not unusual that they'd still be there, but people would have come across it for sure, like homeless people, explorers, etc.

Yep the Spelunkers would have found it.
 
Ahh, but all those died in WWIII. Or went down and still haven't dared come back up again.

The thing is, we hear Data himself tell how he works. His "power cells continually recharge themselves"; his eating is just for "lubricating his biofunctions", since he does "not require sustenance". Sure, Data also tells lies, frequently and fluently. But why lie to a child, or to Q?

Data's head did not remain active beneath San Francisco; it remained inactive. So this does not tell us much about his power systems. Indeed, perhaps he ran out of charge down there, and only again became active because the heroes' mobile power sharing technology (that is, their tricorders and phasers) started sharing?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Ahh, but all those died in WWIII. Or went down and still haven't dared come back up again.

The thing is, we hear Data himself tell how he works. His "power cells continually recharge themselves"; his eating is just for "lubricating his biofunctions", since he does "not require sustenance". Sure, Data also tells lies, frequently and fluently. But why lie to a child, or to Q?

Data's head did not remain active beneath San Francisco; it remained inactive. So this does not tell us much about his power systems. Indeed, perhaps he ran out of charge down there, and only again became active because the heroes' mobile power sharing technology (that is, their tricorders and phasers) started sharing?

Timo Saloniemi


"biofunctions" so what are those I wonder. What does an android have that is classed as "biofunctions?"
 
Okay 7 pages later/Data's butt.
Anyway, why was Troi dressed in her boob dresses, so as not to frighten the crew members whilst talking to them, up until Jellico told her to not wear the boob dresses any longer, was it then okay the frighten the crew members by wearing the regulation uniform?
 
I think she still wore her old outfits for counseling in later TNG. You still see her in them from time to time.
 
Yea, she didn't wholeheartedly change over to the uniform full time until the movies. Even in TNG's finale, the last scene we see her, she's wearing a 'duty leotard'.

It always felt ass backward to me, after all she was in uniform right back at the start, in Encounter At Farpoint.
 
Okay 7 pages later/Data's butt.
Anyway, why was Troi dressed in her boob dresses, so as not to frighten the crew members whilst talking to them, up until Jellico told her to not wear the boob dresses any longer, was it then okay the frighten the crew members by wearing the regulation uniform?
Cuz Betazoids are freeee man! We're probably lucky she wore anything at all lol

Speaking of dress stuff that was a bit wonky, Riker raking Ro over the coals for a cultural earring, when Worf wears a giant baldric, & nobody ever slaps him down with that comeback. We follow the Starfleet uniform code aboard this ship, Ensign, unless we like you... & then... not so much, like boob dresses & a kid in his rainbow onesie flying the ship... yeah, we allow those, but a thing on your ear? Where do you get off, Mister?

Oh wait... TNG didn't do the female "Misters" anymore did they? Did they at least get past that nonsense?
 
The UFP a multispecies organisation, designate the USS Enterprise D as the flagship of Starfleet and make the crew 99% human.
 
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The "Times Arrow" thing I find interesting, you mean in all these hundreds of years no one ever thought to dig underground in that particular spot and they suddenly find Data's head buried there. I find that wholly remarkable.

It would be great if they found his head stuck on a makeshift scarecrow or something. California and Nevada have abandoned mineshafts all over the place, so it's not unusual that they'd still be there, but people would have come across it for sure, like homeless people, explorers, etc.

They found Data's head in a mine abandoned some time before Data was decapitated there in the 1890s.

One possible reason why nobody had found Data's head in 500 years is mentioned in "Times Arrow Part 1":

LAFORGE: Yeah. They found Data's head a mile beneath San Francisco. Been down there about five centuries.

Obviously it is rather strenuous to climb down and then back up a mile. So that is a possible reason why nobody ever found Data's head in 500 years.

But there is a problem. In "Times Arrow Part 2":

GUINAN: I found the Head Surveyor, I found the cavern. You will not be able to get to it. The entrance is on a mine shaft that is the middle of the Presidio on an army base.

I find it a little hard to believe that someone could dig a mine a mile deep on the Presidio army base during the 19th century. It would take a long time to dig a mine a mile deep and the rocks and dirt from the mine would cover a large area. Presumably the mine owners would have to pay the army large rent to make up for the inconvenience. And I don't know if there are any valuable minerals in the San Francisco area.

Possibly the mine was a lot less than about 5,280 feet deep in the 19th century, which would also explain how so many people were able to climb down and back up it in "Times Arrow Part 2". Possibly some time the future the ground level there will be raised by hundreds or thousands of feet. But the Presidio area of San Francisco is seen in a number of Star Trek movies and tv episodes. And as far as I remember there isn't a big hill in that area in any Star Trek production.

Possibly miners dug a mine far from the Golden Gate and outside the military reservation during the Gold Rush years, and the US army later extended the Presidio Military reservation to include the entrance to the abandoned mine, thus making it inaccessible for most civilians. I am not an expert in San Francisco history. And then sometime in our future a lot of rock and/or dirt was piled up in that area, raising a significant new hill.

Since the Presidio covers 2.347 square miles it is possible that the southernmost regions of the Presidio are over a mile south of the Golden Gate Bridge. It is possible that in the era of Star Trek a tall artificial hill in the southern Presidio area is hidden by even taller buildings immediately north of it, and so doesn't show up in images of the Presidio area in Star Trek.

The information about the mine in "Time's Arrow" is rather dubious, but possibly Data's head was really resting about a mile deep, greatly helping to explain why nobody found it there in 500 years.
 
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