It should be part of getting ready for sleep cycle - back up whatever parts you are worried about, or a complete pattern, as part of self-care.
Things that don't add up the TNG edition
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It should be part of getting ready for sleep cycle - back up whatever parts you are worried about, or a complete pattern, as part of self-care.
But then people like Doctor Crusher would be out of a job. But then considering what miracle science they have. They've cured cancer, the common cold. No one seems to get sick unless it's an alien bug.
Regarding Worf raising Alexander...
The crew of the Enterprise probably don't call Worf on his parenting because they didn't know K'Ehleyr as well as Worf did. They wouldn't have any idea how she viewed Klingon traditions or if Alexander was to be raised in them.
The crew of the Enterprise probably don't call Worf on his parenting because they didn't know K'Ehleyr as well as Worf did. They wouldn't have any idea how she viewed Klingon traditions or if Alexander was to be raised in them.
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One thing to note here is that "Reunion" is quite ambiguous on whether Worf knew about Alexander's existence or not: there is actually zero dialogue on that subject. For all we know, Worf was initially heavily involved, and only later chose to stand back because of the "Sins of the Father" discommendation, to a degree where K'Ehleyr accuses him of leaving Alexander fatherless. This Worf denies, after her death, but he apparently still insists on the standoffish approach until the discommendation is dealt with.
Which of course only happens in "Redemption I", at which point it's a bit late, much as we soon see in "New Ground"...
Timo Saloniemi
Which of course only happens in "Redemption I", at which point it's a bit late, much as we soon see in "New Ground"...
Timo Saloniemi
Worf fully decides to take on the role of father right when she dies. Worf may not be the greatest dad, but in terms of his shipmates having concerns, he is not like in need of social services or anything. Alexander is provided with everything he needs physically, mentally, and emotionally. He is clothed, fed, housed, given an education, given rules to follow and a structured routine. Worf does some family counseling with Troi, and gets Troi involved with Alexander's life.
Even sending Alexander to live with his parents is not a bad decision by itself, if they can provide a more nurturing home for him. They do have experience raising Klingon boys, after all, and did a good job with Worf.
Even sending Alexander to live with his parents is not a bad decision by itself, if they can provide a more nurturing home for him. They do have experience raising Klingon boys, after all, and did a good job with Worf.
Q Who. Good episode but they dangled a plot line in front of us with Q being quite scared of Guinan then waved it away and we never saw that ever again in the series. I wish we'd have found out why he's afraid of her or more specifically her people?
I do wonder about that.
STAR TREK: GENERATIONS may retroactively explain that. Perhaps after coming back from the Nexus, Guinan was altered enough to habe some powers... or defensed against a Q, at least. Since she's El-Aurian, and we know so little about them, it might even be possible the Nexus evolved her and the others, for lack of a better term.
Now, she might be one of the only ones who had any real need or time to use whatever ability she gained, which would explain why Soran didn't display anything like that.
STAR TREK: GENERATIONS may retroactively explain that. Perhaps after coming back from the Nexus, Guinan was altered enough to habe some powers... or defensed against a Q, at least. Since she's El-Aurian, and we know so little about them, it might even be possible the Nexus evolved her and the others, for lack of a better term.
Now, she might be one of the only ones who had any real need or time to use whatever ability she gained, which would explain why Soran didn't display anything like that.
Worf sending Alexander to his parents the first time wasn’t a bad decision. But the second time, after Alexander had bonded with him more and he had made a commitment to stick around, he was wrong.
I dunno which time it was, but one of the times Alexander was on Earth, Worf was at least still in communication with him. They seemed to have a good, albeit long distance relationship. I don't remember if Alexander is mentioned in DS9 prior to his appearance, but when he meets worf as a soldier, he talks like they haven't spoken in many years.
The other option is that, by virtue of being a listener, Guinan simply knows a lot of secrets about Q. She doesn't need any superpowers for that.
Q in turn would do well to invent shit about Guinan right there on the spot, to preemptively discredit her - his only defense against this "imp", short of actively turning her into a toad or whatnot. All that stuff about her "going by a different name" or being a "creature" or a "troublemaker/trouble magnet" could be lies out of whole cloth, an assault Guinan in turn could not (and probably should not) do much against. Classic politics of today, really.
Then again, we see no ability. Short of the vague "something is wrong" sense she displays when Picard gets kidnapped, but that might be equal parts "time sense" from the Nexus and general competence in reading subliminal messages (say, those crewmen at Table Two aren't talking about their annoyingly tight schedule even though Picard normally walks past their workstation 4.7 minutes before they come here, prompting that unconscious reaction).
Timo Saloniemi
What happened to all the Constitution class ships? Did Data or Noonien Soong ever meet the androids that popped up every so often on Star Trek? Was it ethical to disconnect Lore and box him? What about when they left him floating in space at the end of Datalore? Did they just fly off and leave him there? Did they put that in a report? Why do they have just one guy firing the weapons; why not have multiple people firing the different emitters? What happened to all the Ferengi marauders? How come no one slaps the commbadge a second time to turn it off? Did the Klingons ever make it to the battle of Wolf 359? How come Worf doesn't sound Russian? How come Deanna Troi has an accent but neither of her parents do? What happened to the Stargazer at the end of The Battle? Isn't the Picard Maneuver really easy to overcome, like you just shoot at both targets?
If Data is sentient and has now got rights "Measure of a man" then doing what they did to Lore is unethical.
Then again, Starfleet is the de facto law enforcement organization of the UFP, there being no evidence of any competing organization. What would be unethical about the police doing their jobs?
What that job really entails is a separate issue. Does dismantling of Lore best compare to handcuffing him, or tasering him for resisting arrest with a zombie army, or temporarily executing him, or what? Or are comparisons meaningless and some android-specific rule applies? Certainly chopping a Soongian machine to pieces is proven harmless to said machine in general.
Timo Saloniemi
What that job really entails is a separate issue. Does dismantling of Lore best compare to handcuffing him, or tasering him for resisting arrest with a zombie army, or temporarily executing him, or what? Or are comparisons meaningless and some android-specific rule applies? Certainly chopping a Soongian machine to pieces is proven harmless to said machine in general.
Timo Saloniemi
Huh?
That's pretty definitive. It's clear she didn't tell him, AND because if she had, he'd have insisted on taking an oath she didn't want, which is why she didn't. How much clearer must they be, than him saying "Why didn't you tell me?" on the subject of a never before seen son, that he is surprised about, in the context of her never having wanted his involvement until now?
Returning to my initial point about Worf's parenting. I wasn't saying Worf is a derelict parent who ought to lose custody or something. I wasn't even saying he's a terrible parent, although he surely could've been better, even by nonhuman standards, & certainly by those
What I was saying, as it applies to this thread, is that Worf is ostensibly known as honorable. He never shuts up about it, & yet, nearly the whole time, he is actively, diligently even, dishonoring the wishes of his son's mother, that WE all know about. She told him she wanted the boy to find his own way, and that her being half human was in fact of value to her in his identity. Remember, he slaughtered a guy over the honor of revenge for his mate, but he can't show some thought towards her wishes?
All the time he ever spends with the kid, he shows no consideration to her wishes/values at all. It's all deliberately left out. If anything, he makes it even worse by pushing only his set of values on him, and then shipping him off to live among another set, which he has rebuked to some degree, sending the worst of mixed messages
And all I'm saying about that, is that an "Honorable" character spending a huge portion of his development being dishonorable, & it specifically never getting addressed, doesn't track very well imho, thus why I thought it made a good addition in here
Like the thread "things in TNG that make you laugh", I'm not sure I want to go through this thread either because I might just start to pay too much attention to the things mentioned in these two threads. 
Q Who
Guinan must know about the Borg ship's adaptation abilities, so why doesn't she warn the crew?
At the latest when the ship blasts those huge holes into the cube , she should be like, "LET'S GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE" or "KEEP FIRING as long as you can," but just sits there calmly instead and claims to only know "bits and pieces."
Evolution
Are we supposed to belive that Wesley is the first guy who comes up with the idea to allow two ordinary nanites to interact with each other so they evolve and form a new civilization?
The High Ground
Research on the folded space tranporter is abondoned in 23rd century because of its deadly effects on humanoids, but how about using it as a weapon since it can just bypass shields?
Same goes for the subspace transporter from "Bloodlines" (transwarp beaming says hello btw) with a range of several light years.
The Price
They find out that the other end of the Barzan wormhole jumps to places throughout the galaxy and that the Alpha Quadrant side will eventually become unstable as well which would take a while however.
It's obviously not what everyone initially hopes it is, a safe, 100 % stable passage to the GQ, but why is it deemed worthless? The Federation could still do intense research on the wormhole itself in order to find out how to create artificial ones, or send probes to chart remote regions of the Galaxy.
Guinan must know about the Borg ship's adaptation abilities, so why doesn't she warn the crew?
At the latest when the ship blasts those huge holes into the cube , she should be like, "LET'S GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE" or "KEEP FIRING as long as you can," but just sits there calmly instead and claims to only know "bits and pieces."
Evolution
Are we supposed to belive that Wesley is the first guy who comes up with the idea to allow two ordinary nanites to interact with each other so they evolve and form a new civilization?
The High Ground
Research on the folded space tranporter is abondoned in 23rd century because of its deadly effects on humanoids, but how about using it as a weapon since it can just bypass shields?
Same goes for the subspace transporter from "Bloodlines" (transwarp beaming says hello btw) with a range of several light years.
The Price
They find out that the other end of the Barzan wormhole jumps to places throughout the galaxy and that the Alpha Quadrant side will eventually become unstable as well which would take a while however.
It's obviously not what everyone initially hopes it is, a safe, 100 % stable passage to the GQ, but why is it deemed worthless? The Federation could still do intense research on the wormhole itself in order to find out how to create artificial ones, or send probes to chart remote regions of the Galaxy.
I agree with this one. They swarmed through her homeworld and destroyed life in her part of the galaxy where her people came from and yeah zero mention of their abilities.. "Nup I'm just gonna shut up about that" she's as bad as Q with withholding information.
Then again, Guinan makes it clear that she's no eyewitness. I mean, if she were, then she'd be sporting an ocular implant now.
Guinan became a refugee because her planet was lost when she was away. Whatever she learned of the Borg, she quite possibly learned from the Feds!
Nothing about the Borg modus operandi suggests the conquest of vast swathes of territory, either. J-25 and El-Aurus may have been point targets, just like every other planet we see the Borg give the terminal assimilation treatment to. Being next-door neighbors to a Borg victim planet does not make one a Borg expert, as we sort of already learned in "The Neutral Zone"...
Timo Saloniemi.
Guinan became a refugee because her planet was lost when she was away. Whatever she learned of the Borg, she quite possibly learned from the Feds!
Nothing about the Borg modus operandi suggests the conquest of vast swathes of territory, either. J-25 and El-Aurus may have been point targets, just like every other planet we see the Borg give the terminal assimilation treatment to. Being next-door neighbors to a Borg victim planet does not make one a Borg expert, as we sort of already learned in "The Neutral Zone"...
Timo Saloniemi.
I've kind of gotten that sense that most (sane) El-Aurians are resistant to playing a direct role in shaping how events will unfold. Granted we have little exposure to them aside from Guinan, but they are called Listeners, and while Guinan obviously passively shapes a number of key events throughout the series, I'm not sure she ever takes action herself.
There was/is certainly room to give us a lot more background on the El-Aurians and who they really were/are.
Heck, for all we know they collectively originated in the future and are so cryptic because they don't want to endanger their own existence-to-come. Maybe that's why they were so attractive to the Borg.
There was/is certainly room to give us a lot more background on the El-Aurians and who they really were/are.
Heck, for all we know they collectively originated in the future and are so cryptic because they don't want to endanger their own existence-to-come. Maybe that's why they were so attractive to the Borg.
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