Things Don't Look Well In The Ukraine

[Capt. Vulcan]

The thing is that it isn't hyperbole. The black death killed less people and came at a time when medicine was at it's infancy. The spanish flu came hundreds of years later at a time when medicine was much more advanced and it still killed more people. The plague was contained in europe and surrounding areas, the spanish flu made it's way to the arctic. Also, like I said it's victims were largely the young with strong immune systems, not those with underlying conditions. That's the potential this pandemic has.

I think it's irresponsible for people to go around acting like this is just some normal flu, and dismissing it all as media hype when it's clearly not. Is there media hype involved? Sure. Doesn't make the pandemic any less dangerous. It actually is a big deal, and people need to be careful about it. If we wait for people like you to be satisfied with the numbers, when the bodies start to pile up, it'll be too late. You're asking for numerical proof about something they're trying to prevent.

The regular flu has killed more people this year, sure, but what percentage of people with the regular flu die? If we want to just talk about numbers, car crashes and gun violence have killed more people. Heck, the deadliest animal in america is the humble deer. If we're going to wait for the mortality rates to reach the levels of the common flu before we start spreading the word, it's too late. History has shown that H1N1 is deadly and that it spreads. When the spanish flu started I'm sure there were plenty of people who thought it was just the flu, and didn't care till it started wiping people out. Even if this never turns in to anything, drug company conspiracies aside, I don't see the harm in telling people to be careful this flu season. It's unfortunate that there seems to be this backlash in popular culture that has left some people thinking this doesn't even exist or that it's just like the regular flu.

 

[Scout101]

How many people died of H1N1 that had no underlying medical issues? Think you'll find it's not as many as you think.

Nor is it deadly all by itself. I had it, and am fine.

Saying "be careful" is fine. Saying that it's the deadliest thing in human history is just plain wrong, however...

 

[Capt. Vulcan]

When did I say it was the deadliest thing in human history? H1N1 was in fact responsible for one of the deadliest pandemics in human history. That's not spin or hyperbole, it's fact. It obviously isn't as well known or sexy sounding as the black death, but those are the facts. It just boggles the mind that there are people going around thinking this is just like the regular flu, or that it plain doesn't exist and is part of some conspiracy. It's reckless for people to be saying it's just a flu or that it doesn't exist. Seriously. This thing has a history of fucking us up, it's back, maybe we should care? Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[Scout101]

When did I say it was the deadliest thing in human history?

H1N1 has a deadly pedigree, having been responsible for the deadliest pandemic in human history when it was known as the spanish flu.

Right there.

H1N1 was in fact responsible for one of the deadliest pandemics in human history. That's not spin or hyperbole, it's fact. It obviously isn't as well known or sexy sounding as the black death, but those are the facts.

ONE OF is correct, deadliest isn't. The numbers I gave earlier show that pretty clearly. And since I can only respond to what you SAY...

It just boggles the mind that there are people going around thinking this is just like the regular flu, or that it plain doesn't exist and is part of some conspiracy.

It's DIFFERENT, and thus we have less immunity to it, and are more likely to contract it, but as far as the thing itself, well... What symptoms are different from seasonal flu? Risk factors? Treatment? It's a flu we don't have as many antibodies for, but it's the flu. Not fatal in most cases unless there are underlying problems or illnesses. You're more likely to get it, and thus the chances of getting it and having other problems goes up, but it's not THAT different.

It's reckless for people to be saying it's just a flu or that it doesn't exist. Seriously. This thing has a history of fucking us up, it's back, maybe we should care? Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I don't think anyone said it doesn't exist, that's a strawman. And it IS the flu, just a different strain. The hysteria over it is more a media creation than a reasoned response to the actual threat...