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They're Not Even Hiding Their Racism... - Reacting To Conservatives FURIOUS At "Black Doctor Who" by Mr TARDIS

She doesn't have Molly vibes at all. I am by far not the only person who has said she gives the impression of an American sitcom, and her "Molly" costume looks so clownish.
 
Mickey... trying to remember... Rose's boyfriend? Platonic friend who was a guy? Anyway, black guy who was usually saying or doing something really stupid but eventually got redeemed due to Torchwood? That's 20 years ago, I've barely seen that season since then.

As for the HP reboot, the more reveals come out about the new cast, the more I roll my eyes. It's got sitcom vibes about it, not epic magic vibes. The woman they picked to play Molly doesn't look old enough to have adult sons with their own careers, and she just looks rather clownish. I suppose if we could see her in an actual costume associated with the show...

Oh, well. This isn't likely to be shown on a channel or service I get. But while the photos are circulating, I will comment on them.

She’s an alright actress, does lean more comedy, but then so did Julie Walters. They’ve got the look about right for the time setting this time around (as in, she looks like my mother…) the age is a close run thing, but she and Arthur would simply had to have started popping out the kids in her twenties.

Mickey was all ‘babe, babe,’ and famously ‘pizzaaa’ when an auton. I think it’s like Ben Aaronovitch having Bambera say ‘shame’ so much. Words middle class BBC writers hear a random black person on the street say once, and assume it’s like a catchphrase or special lingo. Ironic, as say what you like about Chibnall, at least he got the slang right. Cringe as it was.
 
She doesn't have Molly vibes at all. I am by far not the only person who has said she gives the impression of an American sitcom, and her "Molly" costume looks so clownish.

Middle aged women really did dress that way in nineties England. Especially those at the more crystal woo-woo end of the force, though also church types. It does look clownish. But… that’s accurate. Maybe it was just gingers *shrug*.
 
Black Guinevere did cause some snide remarks, but almost no noise even with the odd article stirring thing. (Especially since most of Merlin was all over the place anyway — along with ‘Robin: The Politically Correct Man’ as I heard the Robin Hood series of the time referred to, any ‘right on’ elements were overshadowed by other aspects) Sophie Okonedo didn’t get much noise (even though it was attempted to be stirred up) when she was Queen in the quasi-documentary, quasi Shakespeare ‘Broken Crown’ TV thing, largely because she’s considered an excellent actress, and because of that Shakespeare adaptation element.

Another thought or two about "Black Guinevere"... This has led to some FB arguments about just when black people first arrived in Britain. History confirms that it was at least as far back as the Roman Empire before the Western Empire collapsed, and this pre-dates the earliest Arthurian legends.

I must say I like this version of Guinevere better than the ones I've read in novels. Even the actress who played her in the Camelot musical I worked on had her nose in the air most of the time. I'd originally been assigned as her dresser for quick costume changes, and thank goodness I was reassigned to Lancelot.

I think it’s like Ben Aaronovitch having Bambera say ‘shame’ so much. Words middle class BBC writers hear a random black person on the street say once, and assume it’s like a catchphrase or special lingo.

I just assumed that was a personal tic that she had. I loved Winifred Bambera, and don't get why so many people seem to hate her.

Though if Doctor Who ever decides to use a character that's specifically supposed to be Canadian, the words "eh" and "aboot" should NEVER come out of their mouths. Those are stereotypes based on ONE stupid comedy sketch that wasn't even funny.
 
Mickey... trying to remember... Rose's boyfriend? Platonic friend who was a guy? Anyway, black guy who was usually saying or doing something really stupid but eventually got redeemed due to Torchwood? That's 20 years ago, I've barely seen that season since then.

As for the HP reboot, the more reveals come out about the new cast, the more I roll my eyes. It's got sitcom vibes about it, not epic magic vibes. The woman they picked to play Molly doesn't look old enough to have adult sons with their own careers, and she just looks rather clownish. I suppose if we could see her in an actual costume associated with the show...

Oh, well. This isn't likely to be shown on a channel or service I get. But while the photos are circulating, I will comment on them.

Actual boyfriend. Sometimes.

But later when he's running around between dimensions with pregnant Jackie Tyler, Rose's mum, the actress, Camille Coduri got in on the joke, where off camera in an interview, she said that Micky was the father of her "character's" unborn child.

Married Dr. Martha Jones.

In real life, no idea what he did, but the actor was cancelled, so he's not coming back.
 
Another thought or two about "Black Guinevere"... This has led to some FB arguments about just when black people first arrived in Britain. History confirms that it was at least as far back as the Roman Empire before the Western Empire collapsed, and this pre-dates the earliest Arthurian legends.

I must say I like this version of Guinevere better than the ones I've read in novels. Even the actress who played her in the Camelot musical I worked on had her nose in the air most of the time. I'd originally been assigned as her dresser for quick costume changes, and thank goodness I was reassigned to Lancelot.



I just assumed that was a personal tic that she had. I loved Winifred Bambera, and don't get why so many people seem to hate her.

Though if Doctor Who ever decides to use a character that's specifically supposed to be Canadian, the words "eh" and "aboot" should NEVER come out of their mouths. Those are stereotypes based on ONE stupid comedy sketch that wasn't even funny.

Shame was used by black kids *and* white kids, and teens, in late eighties/nineties London. It’s difficult to explain in words how precisely to use it, but it was a thing. (To an extent it was kind of like saying ‘that’s embarassing’ ’you must have felt shame’ ’you must feel shame now’ and was usually used as a sort of empathetic exclaim action. Mostly.) Problem is, Ben heard it used in a cinema by group of Black girls, didn’t quite grasp it, and then Angela Bruce was from the Midlands and probably a bit old and luvviefied to be using street slang anyway — and therefore also had no idea what he was going for.
Bambera is great, especially with Ancelyn.

As to the history of Black people in Britain, it’s not comparing apples with apples, and there’s been a big sort of weird push on it. The post wind rush Britain is a different world (the one I grew up in and is therefore normal to me) to what was before, and the last twenty or thirty years have changed things again. And fundamentally, there’s also (shockingly to some I am sure…) differences between say a Scots Rwandan refugee, a Somali shop worker, and an Afro-Caribbean whose grandparents settled here three generations back. And therefore a difference over the last twenty years even. It’s all a nonsense for bigotry of different flavours tbh.

No one cared about Guinevere cos Merlin was such a departure anyway, and… a bit odd.
 
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