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They're Not Even Hiding Their Racism... - Reacting To Conservatives FURIOUS At "Black Doctor Who" by Mr TARDIS

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Mr. Tardis is a YouTuber who's striking back at YouTubers like The Quartering who think that sci-fi show/movie/comic book/video games, etc. and the media are too 'woke' and full of DEI. In the specific video I'm posting (from last year), Mr. Tardis attacks British and American YouTubers pushing this bullcrap into people's heads, focusing on the current Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa and how these YouTubers can't stand him, or any other black person being on TV, as well as seeing women and LGBT people in media generally:

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Apologies if this has already been posted, but I came across this today, and thought that it was something to post here.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted, but I came across this today, and thought that it was something to post here.

You realize that hardly anyone here will watch this as it's almost 2.5 hours long? I tried 3 minutes and it was already getting repetitive.

The short version: Some people are disgusting bigots. Other people call them out for their bigotry. The actor is caught in the middle and just wants to do his job.
 
The main problem with a female Doctor was the writing. So far Ncuti deserves better, But could get their teeth into it very effectively.
 
All of these bigot bait YouTubers are scum, constantly pumping out low effort slop for low IQ hogs.

It's how we get shit like some dumbass calling Mad Max Fury Road an attack on men because Max didn't speak enough. The Mad Max franchise has always been known for Max's long monologues
 
The main problem with a female Doctor was the writing. So far Ncuti deserves better, But could get their teeth into it very effectively.

Capaldi deserved better writing. I stuck it out as long as I could without feeling like throwing a brick through the TV (counterproductive, I know), and the last straw was Clara's "oops, GOTCHA! Hee-hee-hee!" phony death. I'd anticipated her death for ages, because I couldn't stand her. The writing was overall horrible, but she was the worst part of it.

And they did a bait and switch. So I decided hell with it, I'm done. For me, Doctor Who will always be Hartnell - McGann, and nuWho will be Eccleston and Tennant. I liked Capaldi's Doctor, but even he couldn't make that crappy writing make any sense.

I did watch the Christmas special that year, because of the theme and the First Doctor. But after that? Only very brief clips from YT, that amount to less than 5 minutes. I didn't even bother with any of the 60th anniversary stuff.
 
Capaldi deserved better writing.
Yep. I was a lot more disappointed with how Moffat et al. wrote for Peter Capaldi than by how Chibnall et al. wrote for Jodie Whittaker. For a start, Chibnall didn't waste a year or two writing her as an asshole.
 
Is that your assessment of Capaldi's Doctor? I put it down to a traumatic regeneration, and then getting saddled with a narcissistic, selfish companion who treated her time with him as an entitlement, not as a once in a lifetime privilege that she should be damn grateful for.

It's the writing in general that I found awful. Come on - the Moon is an egg? Even as a young child, I would have found that ridiculous.
 
Danny Pink. 12 was a complete hypocritical raging asshole to him. That wasn't Clara's fault, and I don't see the regeneration having much to do with it either.
 
Clara didn't treat Danny Pink very well, either. FFS, she was slipping out on him in the middle of dates to run off with the Doctor. In the end, he proved to be far more honorable than she was.
 
Eh. As long as I can keep not liking the current Doctor because of bad decisions by the writing and production, and because thus far I am not remotely struck on him as an actor either, then I’m gonna stay out of culture war fandom.
Apart from a few, who I will watch, because it’s entertaining watching a discussion of Who veer into a sort of weird Question Time thing and wondering when they’re gonna tie it back to Who, and because those ones are definitely all about Who for *decades* and somehow they just keep veering into politics. It’s a sort of… Gareth Roberts vs RTD war, and that is at least sociologically interesting. XD
 
I tune out when people start arguing about showrunners, producers, or whatever they're called these days. I couldn't match showrunner with Doctor if my life depended on it, except for John Nathan-Turner and the Fourth Doctor. And even then, all I cared about was whether the characters were interesting and if the stories were entertaining.

Both of these ceased, so I quit watching. It doesn't mean I still don't have loads of Classic Who available in novel form and fanfic.
 
I tune out when people start arguing about showrunners, producers, or whatever they're called these days. I couldn't match showrunner with Doctor if my life depended on it, except for John Nathan-Turner and the Fourth Doctor. And even then, all I cared about was whether the characters were interesting and if the stories were entertaining.

Both of these ceased, so I quit watching. It doesn't mean I still don't have loads of Classic Who available in novel form and fanfic.

JNT only did the fourth’s last season xD so you’re rally not kidding.
 
Since the video in the OP mentions more than just Doctor Who, I'm wondering about the current backlash about the actor picked to play Snape in the Harry Potter TV reboot. About 99% of the comments I've seen on FB is against it, both because it's not remotely in keeping with how Snape has always been described in the novels, plus it would add in an element of racism to the storyline that wasn't there before (the bullying among Snape and the Marauders when they were in Hogwarts). Is this a FB phenomenon or more general around social media?

Going back years when BBC Merlin made Guinevere a black commoner instead of a foreign noblewoman, was there much protest in social media? I have no idea because I didn't get into that show until 10 years after it was canceled. I have no idea what social media was saying when it was new.
 
Since the video in the OP mentions more than just Doctor Who, I'm wondering about the current backlash about the actor picked to play Snape in the Harry Potter TV reboot. About 99% of the comments I've seen on FB is against it, both because it's not remotely in keeping with how Snape has always been described in the novels, plus it would add in an element of racism to the storyline that wasn't there before (the bullying among Snape and the Marauders when they were in Hogwarts). Is this a FB phenomenon or more general around social media?

Going back years when BBC Merlin made Guinevere a black commoner instead of a foreign noblewoman, was there much protest in social media? I have no idea because I didn't get into that show until 10 years after it was canceled. I have no idea what social media was saying when it was new.

Black Guinevere did cause some snide remarks, but almost no noise even with the odd article stirring thing. (Especially since most of Merlin was all over the place anyway — along with ‘Robin: The Politically Correct Man’ as I heard the Robin Hood series of the time referred to, any ‘right on’ elements were overshadowed by other aspects) Sophie Okonedo didn’t get much noise (even though it was attempted to be stirred up) when she was Queen in the quasi-documentary, quasi Shakespeare ‘Broken Crown’ TV thing, largely because she’s considered an excellent actress, and because of that Shakespeare adaptation element.

The Snape thing I think is different, because the complexities of that character and his relationships would actively be harmed by inadvertently introducing an element of racism into things that casting a Black British actor would do. That’s my stance on it, tbh, and I think people that don’t see that either don’t know the character and stories, or the time and place they take place in. I can think of loads of *other* HP characters that could be cast with BAME actors (including Hermione, as has been done on stage — though with the mud blood thing from the books, and SPEW, it’s edge territory) and it not change the underlying meanings and relationships. But Snape would be unwise.

It is not really registering in the mainstream press to be honest, and I wouldn’t expect it to. There’s the same lack of mainstream noise about all the people sounding off that Heathcliff *should* be a black actor in Wuthering Heights (which shows that some people really read things, or pretend to have read them, with zero knowledge of the world when they were written, or indeed anything but the most modern literal understanding of words therein.)

As to the subject of the whole thread… well, I have just come to the conclusion that some people carry a bias without meaning to, and however well intentioned, shouldn’t be let near writing if there’s a risk of it showing. Gatwas problem isn’t that he was a ‘Black Doctor’ it was that he wasn’t decently written or costumed or shown as ‘The Doctor’ in Doctor Who. Maybe some of that was in his performance, but I suspect it’s higher up in the production chain. Just look at Mickey Smith as written in Rose et al. Production choices that were obviously red flags from before he was even on screen did for this incarnation.

Brits for the most part aren’t quite so race obsessed as to worry about it, and in general probably give even less of a monkeys about Doctor Who in general these days.
 
Black Guinevere did cause some snide remarks, but almost no noise even with the odd article stirring thing. (Especially since most of Merlin was all over the place anyway — along with ‘Robin: The Politically Correct Man’ as I heard the Robin Hood series of the time referred to, any ‘right on’ elements were overshadowed by other aspects) Sophie Okonedo didn’t get much noise (even though it was attempted to be stirred up) when she was Queen in the quasi-documentary, quasi Shakespeare ‘Broken Crown’ TV thing, largely because she’s considered an excellent actress, and because of that Shakespeare adaptation element.

The Snape thing I think is different, because the complexities of that character and his relationships would actively be harmed by inadvertently introducing an element of racism into things that casting a Black British actor would do. That’s my stance on it, tbh, and I think people that don’t see that either don’t know the character and stories, or the time and place they take place in. I can think of loads of *other* HP characters that could be cast with BAME actors (including Hermione, as has been done on stage — though with the mud blood thing from the books, and SPEW, it’s edge territory) and it not change the underlying meanings and relationships. But Snape would be unwise.

It is not really registering in the mainstream press to be honest, and I wouldn’t expect it to. There’s the same lack of mainstream noise about all the people sounding off that Heathcliff *should* be a black actor in Wuthering Heights (which shows that some people really read things, or pretend to have read them, with zero knowledge of the world when they were written, or indeed anything but the most modern literal understanding of words therein.)

As to the subject of the whole thread… well, I have just come to the conclusion that some people carry a bias without meaning to, and however well intentioned, shouldn’t be let near writing if there’s a risk of it showing. Gatwas problem isn’t that he was a ‘Black Doctor’ it was that he wasn’t decently written or costumed or shown as ‘The Doctor’ in Doctor Who. Maybe some of that was in his performance, but I suspect it’s higher up in the production chain. Just look at Mickey Smith as written in Rose et al. Production choices that were obviously red flags from before he was even on screen did for this incarnation.

Brits for the most part aren’t quite so race obsessed as to worry about it, and in general probably give even less of a monkeys about Doctor Who in general these days.
Mickey... trying to remember... Rose's boyfriend? Platonic friend who was a guy? Anyway, black guy who was usually saying or doing something really stupid but eventually got redeemed due to Torchwood? That's 20 years ago, I've barely seen that season since then.

As for the HP reboot, the more reveals come out about the new cast, the more I roll my eyes. It's got sitcom vibes about it, not epic magic vibes. The woman they picked to play Molly doesn't look old enough to have adult sons with their own careers, and she just looks rather clownish. I suppose if we could see her in an actual costume associated with the show...

Oh, well. This isn't likely to be shown on a channel or service I get. But while the photos are circulating, I will comment on them.
 
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