These are the voyages of... what? Really? Who??? Who Cares????

[Csalem]

It's been 6 years since Nemesis and we've had very few stories on the enterprise. Perhaps 1 or 2 per year. Characters have moved on, but as far as the reader goes it's still in the first season of stories, and unlike S1 of TNG there aren't books dedicated to whoever the security chief is now. The pre destiny book characters were wiped out, then Choudry went. It does feel that new characters stick around for about 30 pages of time before vanishing.

Voyager has done well I think as circumstances conspired to keep almost all the crew together. DS9 started well, but only really has Quark left now. TNG has hung on to most of the main characters too which helps.

For me this is the problem I have with current TNG. There have been far more TNG-relaunch novels than VGR-relaunch novels since Nemesis came out, yet I feel I have made a greater connection to new characters in VGR than in TNG. The new TNG characters seem so bland and part of the background compared to the VGR characters. It doesn't help that there is such a high death rate on the E-E that at this point I feel there is no point getting attached to the characters because in a book or two they will be gone. With the VGR novels sometimes I enjoy the sections set on the other ships with the new characters rather than sections with the characters from the show.

I think people don't like Chen because she is probably the only developed new character on the E-E, and therefore she has an actual personality and is a "character" which gives people reasons to either like her or dislike her.

I will stick with the TNG books as it was my favourite tv series and I do hope that the books get better, but at the moment I would rank the book series behind VGR, ENT and DS9.

Just my two cents.

 

[Galekarens]

And then there are those like me who really don't give a fig about many of the characters from the shows, who have all had decades' worth of stories focused on them, both on television and in print. You can only squeeze so much juice out of something before it runs dry. The current novel line is smart to move things forward and mix in new characters to keep things fresh and interesting.

Well I dunno, after watching for years the TV characters on screen it would seem people would, you know, maybe end up caring about them and so would like to read more about them going forth. When there were Trek movies made it was the original TV characters who were featured as the most important people in the stories, and others were mostly one-time guest stars, because of who fans wanted to see more of. Even in the JJmovies they used the original TOS characters and didn't just decide to create all new ones set in the Trek universe. So speaking for myself, on the whole I want to mostly read about the original TV characters, with new book created people secondary as "guests" or perhaps recurring if needed. I spent years getting to know the personnel on TV and that's who I mostly like to read about, yes now even still.

 

[BillJ]

To be fair, he did propose a solution: more new novels set during the runs of the original TV series.

EDIT: Oops. I missed that Zarkon beat me to the punch.

I would like to see more novels set during the various 24th century shows, as well.

 

[RandyS]

To be fair, he did propose a solution: more new novels set during the runs of the original TV series.

EDIT: Oops. I missed that Zarkon beat me to the punch.

I would like to see more novels set during the various 24th century shows, as well.

I was beginning to think I was the only one who felt this way. Reading through this thread showed me otherwise.

 

[indianatrekker26]

To be fair, he did propose a solution: more new novels set during the runs of the original TV series.

EDIT: Oops. I missed that Zarkon beat me to the punch.

I would like to see more novels set during the various 24th century shows, as well.

I was beginning to think I was the only one who felt this way. Reading through this thread showed me otherwise.

Same here. i'm hoping for 2017, Pocket Books does a story line similar to what TOS got with Crucible. A story they can take that would thread throughout the original TV run of TNG.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

I'd like to see another story-arc similar to Vanguard set between TMP and TWOK. There's (apparently) such a huge cap between the two films; there's no reason why another mini-series couldn't be written to encompass part of that time period.

--Sran

 

[Christopher]

I'd like to see another story-arc similar to Vanguard set between TMP and TWOK. There's (apparently) such a huge cap between the two films; there's no reason why another mini-series couldn't be written to encompass part of that time period.

That's essentially what I hoped to set in motion a decade ago with Ex Machina: an ongoing movie-era continuity that I and other authors could build on. But it just didn't sell well enough for Pocket to be interested in doing more with the post-TMP timeframe. I've had to sneak in continuations piecemeal in other projects, namely Mere Anarchy and Forgotten History.

 

[Paris]

I'd like to see another story-arc similar to Vanguard set between TMP and TWOK. There's (apparently) such a huge cap between the two films; there's no reason why another mini-series couldn't be written to encompass part of that time period.

--Sran

I would love this! It'd be fun if the Sagittarius and the Endeavor could be a part of it. Vanguard, then Seekers, and then a bunch of those characters/ships in the 2270's as well. One can dream

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

That's essentially what I hoped to set in motion a decade ago with Ex Machina: an ongoing movie-era continuity that I and other authors could build on. But it just didn't sell well enough for Pocket to be interested in doing more with the post-TMP timeframe. I've had to sneak in continuations piecemeal in other projects, namely Mere Anarchy and Forgotten History.

I would love this! It'd be fun if the Sagittarius and the Endeavor could be a part of it. Vanguard, then Seekers, and then a bunch of those characters/ships in the 2270's as well. One can dream

That's what I'm hoping, too. If Seekers runs long enough (it's currently in late-2269) to reach (at least) the mid-2270s, maybe Pocket Books will give Christopher and/or David Mack and Ward/Dillmore a chance to write a mini-series that picks up where Terrell, Khatami and company left off. We know Terrell eventually moves on (as we first met him when he commanded the Reliant), but how and why does he end up there, and what becomes of his colleagues and friends on the Sagittarius and the Endeavour?

--Sran

 

[David Mack]

^ Excellent questions.

 

[Thrawn]

^ Excellent questions.

That's what I like to hear

 

[JD]

It's been 6 years since Nemesis and we've had very few stories on the enterprise. Perhaps 1 or 2 per year. Characters have moved on, but as far as the reader goes it's still in the first season of stories, and unlike S1 of TNG there aren't books dedicated to whoever the security chief is now. The pre destiny book characters were wiped out, then Choudry went. It does feel that new characters stick around for about 30 pages of time before vanishing.

Voyager has done well I think as circumstances conspired to keep almost all the crew together. DS9 started well, but only really has Quark left now. TNG has hung on to most of the main characters too which helps.

For me this is the problem I have with current TNG. There have been far more TNG-relaunch novels than VGR-relaunch novels since Nemesis came out, yet I feel I have made a greater connection to new characters in VGR than in TNG. The new TNG characters seem so bland and part of the background compared to the VGR characters. It doesn't help that there is such a high death rate on the E-E that at this point I feel there is no point getting attached to the characters because in a book or two they will be gone. With the VGR novels sometimes I enjoy the sections set on the other ships with the new characters rather than sections with the characters from the show.

I think people don't like Chen because she is probably the only developed new character on the E-E, and therefore she has an actual personality and is a "character" which gives people reasons to either like her or dislike her.

I will stick with the TNG books as it was my favourite tv series and I do hope that the books get better, but at the moment I would rank the book series behind VGR, ENT and DS9.

Just my two cents.

While I have been enjoying the post-Destiny TNG books, I do have to agree. I think part of the problem is that the books are so focused on the big events, and don't take the time to really give us a lot of character development. Faur has been on the bridge since at least Destiny, but we know very little about her. The same was true of Elfiki, but she has gotten a bit more development in some of the later books.
I'm hoping that now that we seem to have moved away from the big crossover events to smaller more stand alone books we might get more development for some of the other characters.

 

[Relayer1]

That's essentially what I hoped to set in motion a decade ago with Ex Machina: an ongoing movie-era continuity that I and other authors could build on. But it just didn't sell well enough for Pocket to be interested in doing more with the post-TMP timeframe. I've had to sneak in continuations piecemeal in other projects, namely Mere Anarchy and Forgotten History.

I would love this! It'd be fun if the Sagittarius and the Endeavor could be a part of it. Vanguard, then Seekers, and then a bunch of those characters/ships in the 2270's as well. One can dream

That's what I'm hoping, too. If Seekers runs long enough (it's currently in late-2269) to reach (at least) the mid-2270s, maybe Pocket Books will give Christopher and/or David Mack and Ward/Dillmore a chance to write a mini-series that picks up where Terrell, Khatami and company left off. We know Terrell eventually moves on (as we first met him when he commanded the Reliant), but how and why does he end up there, and what becomes of his colleagues and friends on the Sagittarius and the Endeavour?

--Sran

How about the SCE ship Lovell and it!s crew ?

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

^The Lovell was severely damaged during Vanguard, so I'm not even sure if the ship is still in service. It may have been scrapped.

--Sran

 

[Galekarens]

Well IMO it could be cool to see one or more new novels published that are set during the TNG TV era. I wasn't too interested in the Voyager String Theory trilogy because they were "old news" (set during the TV years) in my mind, but finally read #1 and #2 (will get to #3 soon hopefully lol) and found they were pretty interesting; even if not canon they were geared as a bridge between Voyager's seasons 4 and 5. So perhaps some intrepid Trek novel writer might suggest such a new "old" TNG tale, heh. Another novel w/ the original TV gang might be yes fun.

 

[The Wormhole]

It was my hope that for the 50th anniversary they'd publish one novel set during the TV series runs of each of the five shows. Although that seems to not be happening now, it would still be a good idea what with TNG's 30th coming up in 2017 to have a novel set during the series run, even if the main anniversary event for the year is something set in the current novel continuity.

 

[Mage]

I'd like to see another story-arc similar to Vanguard set between TMP and TWOK. There's (apparently) such a huge cap between the two films; there's no reason why another mini-series couldn't be written to encompass part of that time period.

That's essentially what I hoped to set in motion a decade ago with Ex Machina: an ongoing movie-era continuity that I and other authors could build on. But it just didn't sell well enough for Pocket to be interested in doing more with the post-TMP timeframe. I've had to sneak in continuations piecemeal in other projects, namely Mere Anarchy and Forgotten History.

Which is weird, since you'd think that with all the requests for more TMP/TOS-Movie era novels, Ex Machina would have sold very well. Fan feedback on this forum alone is very high.

 

[Christopher]

Which is weird, since you'd think that with all the requests for more TMP/TOS-Movie era novels, Ex Machina would have sold very well. Fan feedback on this forum alone is very high.

Unfortunately, this forum's membership isn't statistically representative of the audience as a whole.

 

[Mage]

Which is weird, since you'd think that with all the requests for more TMP/TOS-Movie era novels, Ex Machina would have sold very well. Fan feedback on this forum alone is very high.

Unfortunately, this forum's membership isn't statistically representative of the audience as a whole.

No, we're smarter.

 

[jaime]

I agree whole heartedly with the general sentiment. Posted lengthy comment covering some of the same points elsewhere a moment ago.

I think the problem is the line between 'building on' the shows to tell new stories, and just writing something with the name on, regardless of how much actually grows organically from the earlier works is getting blurred. Possibly a side effect of having no real new trek to build on. Some of the books almost need a little asterisk disclaimer 'warning, contains only contains ten per cent original tv series characters or content, scenarios may differ from those on the packaging, made from concentrate, May contain nuts. This novel was made from ethically sourced fan love, but may ignore the finales of said shows for shipping or other purposes.'

It's problem that faces every single expanded universe novel series of every tv show ever, if they go on long enough.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see it fixed.