Spoilers There are a lot of references to ENT in Season 4 of Star Trek Discovery

[Unimatrix Q]

- The introduction of Archer Spacedock (Archer's Theme is playing during the scene) in "Kobayashi Maru"

- The NX-01 snowglobe in "All Is Possible"

- A copy? of the Kir'Shara appearing in T'Rina's office on Ni'Var (Name of Vulcan after the Vulcan - Romulan reunification)
in "All Is Possible"

- The Akaali playing the main part in "The Examples"

Guess there will be more to come, during this season...

 

[ChristopherPike]

It will be interesting to see where this is leading. The writers have clearly been catching up with that specific Star Trek era. Some species from Enterprise will turn out to be behind the DMA perhaps?

 

[F. King Daniel]

They're reference-spamming all of Trek. USS Voyager-J, USS Janeway, a Malon in the third episode of season 3 is the same for Voyager. I'm not sure they're planning any specific Enterprise tie-ins beyond that kind of thing.

I am curious to see if they tackle the ENT-era Earth/Romulan war at some point in the Paramount+ Trekverse.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

It will be interesting to see where this is leading. The writers have clearly been catching up with that specific Star Trek era. Some species from Enterprise will turn out to be behind the DMA perhaps?

The Sphere Builders possibly?

They're reference-spamming all of Trek. USS Voyager-J, USS Janeway, a Malon in the third episode of season 3 is the same for Voyager. I'm not sure they're planning any specific Enterprise tie-ins beyond that kind of thing.

I am curious to see if they tackle the ENT-era Earth/Romulan war at some point in the Paramount+ Trekverse.

Yeah, but it seems that this year they seem to have focussed on referencing ENT more than any other Trek show or movie so far imo.

 

[NCC-73515]

The Sphere Builders possibly?

Na'kuhl would be cool

 

[somebuddyX]

I don't watch Discovery but I do know the third season had references to all the different series. Is this season just continuing that trend? Are there references to DS9 and TNG etc in Season 4 as well?

 

[XCV330]

ok.. here's my guess. some of its vague, some of its based on other's comments. I'm not that original.

Tarka, whatever or whoever he is, is not to be trusted. Obviously. He's a manipulator and he has a keen interest in someone that can control the spore drive. But he may not be the villain. He knows a lot more about the DMA (why do they hate Direct Memory Access so much?!) then he will admit, but he's not hiding it from those around him either.

A lot references this season already to the nature of controlling Discovery, and the fact only Stamets and Book can do it. Book's species might have included others who could do it, but they're all dead now. The DMA is not a naturally occurring phenomenon. It targeted Book's homeworld for some reason.

My guess is Tarka is some kind of temporal agent. I've considered that Kovich is also. They both dress similarly and seem to have direct access to Commander in Chief Vance. The time wars are over, and apparently the mechanisms that allowed them to operate are mostly gone, except Discovery. Any new spore drives ships will also be able to violate that treaty. I don't know whether that factors into the plot. I doubt it. The only other known spore drive ships, the Glenn and the Charon, are destroyed.

If the DMA is disturbing the mycelial network the way the Charon did, the entire multiverse is threatened again. the jahSepp may also get involved. Anyone notice that spark that dropped off at the end of Tarka's DMA simulation ?

finally:
Starfleet or whoever is captain of the Discovery at some point has a reason to park the Discovery somewhere it can't be found, in some kind of "Space storm" where Zora watches reruns for at least another 1000 years.

I had joked that we wouldn't see Future Guy in the 32nd century but I'm not really going to joke about that now. The ENT era was a critical time in the Temporal cold war, and making a giant weapon capable of making a potential tool like Discovery inert would be the kind of thing the Sphere Builders would do.

It's a long shot but I also think DISCO could be heading into the ENT era. The original idea for Discovery was to go to various time periods of Star Trek. But I don't think if they go they will keep Discovery with them or else it will leave them there and then go park itself somewhere safe.

There's two potential reasons I can think to go there:
stop the sphere builders if they are involved, again.

do a Kirk and get a breeding pair of Tardigrades into the future and restart the species.

 

[DarKush]

When the Temporal Wars were mentioned last season I was thinking it would be nice to revisit the Na'kuhl. And I would be okay with the Season 4 big bads being the Sphere Builders or Future Guy. Also wouldn't mind seeing the Xindi, Suliban, or "Silent Enemy" aliens again.

 

[Dukhat]

Why do things always have to be linked to other shows? How about they actually, god forbid, do something original rather than feel the need to rely on plot devices from past shows?

 

[FederationHistorian]

I am curious to see if they tackle the ENT-era Earth/Romulan war at some point in the Paramount+ Trekverse.

Probably not. Avoidance of that particular event seems to be deliberate.

If anything related to Romulans in the ENT era gets mentioned, it will be the minefield, the influence over Administrator V’Las, the drones, and maybe a reference to Admiral Valdore by name. And maybe a more accurate BoP for that era as was originally intended.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Probably not. Avoidance of that particular event seems to be deliberate.

A Romulan War movie was written in 2006, but cancelled in favour of the JJ Abrams reboot. Here's the script

Not gonna like, the reboot was definitely the best course of action.

 

[FederationHistorian]

A Romulan War movie was written in 2006, but cancelled in favour of the JJ Abrams reboot. Here's the script

Not gonna like, the reboot was definitely the best course of action.

So, avoided. Like I said.

 

[F. King Daniel]

So, avoided. Like I said.

Yes but because a big name director willing to reboot TOS was considered financially more sound than a Star Trek movie with no established characters (aside from a Shran cameo). It wasn't specifically about the Romulan wars.

 

[thribs]

The writers must have start watching the other Star Trek’s. I hope they enjoy DS9 when they get to it

 

[F. King Daniel]

The writers must have start watching the other Star Trek’s. I hope they enjoy DS9 when they get to it

Funny you should say that, remember the interviews in the early 00's where Branon and Braga admitted they'd not seen all of TOS, while making the prequel series Enterprise?

 

[fireproof78]

Funny you should say that, remember the interviews in the early 00's where Branon and Braga admitted they'd not seen all of TOS, while making the prequel series Enterprise?

I hope they were fired, the hypocrites!

 

[FederationHistorian]

Yes but because a big name director willing to reboot TOS was considered financially more sound than a Star Trek movie with no established characters (aside from a Shran cameo). It wasn't specifically about the Romulan wars.

Considering that the ENT cast was still young enough to return to their roles at the time, and Bakula himself was a known face of sci-fi, a Romulan War movie could have been done. It wasn’t because it does not interest anyone, regardless who the characters are. It’s the same reason that a Klingon war over a Romulan War in DIS was chosen for the first season of DIS. And the Romulan War only got referenced in BEY.

The writers must have start watching the other Star Trek’s. I hope they enjoy DS9 when they get to it

S3 features Morn’s species and Trills, so they’ve been paying attention. Just not to the degree some would like.

 

[XCV330]

With the superweapon DMA, considero Kal Dano, inventor of the Tox Uthat. He was smart enough to invent a hand-held weapon that could destroy a star, seems like this would be up his alley. He might have been alive at the time of the supposed battle of Procyon V.

And back to that Enterprise era connection..
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Future_Tense_(episode)

I don't think that DISCO writers are necessarily actively dipping into STO continuity, but still, that could very well be Kal Dano.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Considering that the ENT cast was still young enough to return to their roles at the time, and Bakula himself was a known face of sci-fi, a Romulan War movie could have been done. It wasn’t because it does not interest anyone, regardless who the characters are. It’s the same reason that a Klingon war over a Romulan War in DIS was chosen for the first season of DIS. And the Romulan War only got referenced in BEY.

Not with the ENT cast, since that show was cancelled and branded a failure. Hence Enterprise and Archer being namedropped as missing the opening of the war since they were ar Risa. They wouldn't have spent money developing a Romulan war movie (even if it wasn't made) if someone didn't think it'd make money.

 

[DarKush]

Regarding the concern about things always being linked with past shows or plot devices, I think that DISCO has not always relied on things from prior Treks, like "The Burn" or even jumping into the 32rd century. While the Emerald Chain did use prior Trek species, we never saw them in an alliance of this nature, so that was new.

I have no problem linking back to the past because I feel it makes the whole Trek franchise richer, and it would be nice to revisit species that we didn't see a lot of, or learn much about. I'm a believer in the idea of why recreate the wheel, and if there are some species out there already that are similar, why not use them? It builds on what came before, while also hitting that nice nostalgic impulse. Vance's writing off suspects last week had to be DISCO's writer's recognizing how hitting that nostalgia button would be welcomed, as well, as the many other nods to the past this season so far.

There is a danger in going that route, of getting it 'wrong', but still, there's also the other side of creating something similar, and lackluster, and leaving some fans asking why didn't you use x species instead of creating something new or 'new' that was similar but not as impressive.