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Spoilers Theory: The "Villain" in Season 4 might be the Prime Directive

Unless pandemics or the prime directive develop loads of phasers the I don't see it happening
don’t worry, they can have cardboard-cut villains for that, even if they are totally unrelated to the main storyline.

...Or just make the virus artificial, like shatner did.

Jokes aside, I really hope it’s not a third installment of the killer AI.
 
OTE="Dukhat, post: 13727605, member: 9223"]I just can’t see a technologically advanced civilization reverting to barbarism in 120 years just because they couldn’t use warp drive anymore. It makes zero sense to me.[/QUOTE]

There were the temporal wars about a hundred years before the arrival of the Discovery and as we have heard and seen in "Unification III", there was already a lot of trouble brewing for the Federation because of the dilitium shortage even before the burn. It's very possible imho and even hinted at that the Federation already had a lot of internal problems to deal with, even before the calamity.

When the burn happened it may have caused wars on some already instable worlds that could have left some worlds in a state where they lost a lot of their scientific knowledge with only some myths about a former golden age remaining behind.

Actually maybe a bit like Earth was shown to be like, around the same time, in Babylon 5's "Deconstruction of Falling Stars", where the war that caused it was also called the "burn" ;)
 
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I just can’t see a technologically advanced civilization reverting to barbarism in 120 years just because they couldn’t use warp drive anymore. It makes zero sense to me.

Agreed.

A hundred years is a drop in the bucket. Somebody would remember. Knowledge is rather difficult to exterminate.
 
I find it more likely that any said civilization that lost the ability of warp travel would simply just focus more on their own resources and technology. Not having contact with other planets is not a be-all-end-all to their civilization. Based on what we saw of Earth, Trill and the Ni’var, planetary societies were doing just fine without warp travel.
 
Agreed.

A hundred years is a drop in the bucket. Somebody would remember. Knowledge is rather difficult to exterminate.

Maybe somebody. But perhaps not enough people to make it count.
And what if on some former Federation worlds the knowledge about their history gets surpressed by a dictatorship that keeps the population in the dark?

Could actually be a plot for a Season 4 episode ;)
 
Earth had plenty of dilithium, they were just sitting on it. Just because they chose not to travel at warp doesn't mean they couldn't.
 
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I just can’t see a technologically advanced civilization reverting to barbarism in 120 years just because they couldn’t use warp drive anymore. It makes zero sense to me.

There were the temporal wars about a hundred years before the arrival of the Discovery and as we have heard and seen in "Unification III", there was already a lot of trouble brewing for the Federation because of the dilitium shortage even before the burn. It's very possible imho and even hinted at that the Federation already had a lot of internal problems to deal with, even before the calamity.

When the burn happened it may have caused wars on some already instable worlds that could have left some worlds in a state where they lost a lot of their scientific knowledge with only some myths about a former golden age remaining behind.

Actually maybe a bit like Earth was shown to be like, around the same time, in Babylon 5's "Deconstruction of Falling Stars", where the war that caused it was also called the "burn" ;)

The Prime Directive covers pre warp civilizations to preserve their evolution and cultural uniqueness. Civilizations that don't have warp because of war and unrest are not the same.

For the sake of argument, lets assume there is a planet that was part of the Federation pre burn and is now so decimated that all inhabitants forgot all of that and are rebuilding. Why would it be a problem to leave that culture alone? Could it be descendants that spread across the federation trying to bring their people back out of the dark ages? Wouldn't that be people fighting against the Federation in an attempt to bypass the Prime Directive or to impose their interpretation that it does not apply?

I think the concept could make for a good and infuriating episode like that TNG one where they move the doomed culture to another planet and say it was unethical. The one that says, "our political philosophy is more important than preserving your unique culture and biology", or "I was just doing my job in watching you all die" is the correct path forward. I do not think it makes sense that this would be the whole season. Most planets still have the tech and know their entire history.

This concept could work for an SNW episode too. They could have a federation planet be caught in some anomaly that causes it to remain isolated for centuries in their time, weeks or month in SNW time and they need to figure out how to approach the planet after they fix the anomaly and find that it has reverted to a lower tech civilization.
 
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I hope it's not a pandemic story. We all just lived through one, and experienced all the greatness and stupidity that humanity has to offer in reaction to it. I don't want a season of any show dedicated to it. Put all that bullshit behind us and look forward to a brighter future.
 
I hope it's not a pandemic story. We all just lived through one, and experienced all the greatness and stupidity that humanity has to offer in reaction to it. I don't want a season of any show dedicated to it. Put all that bullshit behind us and look forward to a brighter future.
You know there will be plenty of pandemic/"nostalgia" shows in a couple of decades, so please don't torture any of us with them now. The scale and lack of fitting clothes will remind me for a long time.
 
Usually, nostalgia comes from romanticizing a period of time that is perceived as "good times". I'm not sure I know anyone who considered most of 2020 "good times".
 
Usually, nostalgia comes from romanticizing a period of time that is perceived as "good times". I'm not sure I know anyone who considered most of 2020 "good times".
don’t worry: our brain is hardwired to think the past as good, in a few years many of us will think back of the calmer times of doing nothing at home during the pandemic.
 
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