Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by TheGodBen, Oct 16, 2011.
There are 2 different types of creepy. One is when somebody makes you stop and go "errr…. I don't know about this person". This is usually when someone does something socially awkward -- like try to escort someone home even after they've declined. The other kind of creepy makes your skin crawl, because the act itself makes the person seem repulsive.
Let me give you an example. After a date once, a guy asked me if I was going to "run away from him". Creepy thing to say, but creepy in the 1st degree, not second. When you're hit on by a married guy, that's the 2nd type of creepy.
At first glance, Chrysalis seems in character for Julian. But Julian is the first type of creepy not the second.
Season 1 Julian was face palm embarrassing and socially awkward but no worse than many young, nerdy guys I've met. With Melora, it was inappropriate but excusable, because Julian was young, naive, and socially awkward. Also, Melora was a fully mature adult.
With Sarina, it feels more predatory. Julian should know better, especially since he's grown up quite a bit since Melora. A doctor abusing his authority without considering the welfare of his patient who couldn't possibly be emotionally equipped to handle his advances is on a different level than a naive act by someone who is socially awkward.
I think Chrysalis is out of character for Julian. I don't even think early season Julian would do what he did here. But if he did, he would at least learn a lesson about not violating medical ethics. But we know he doesn't, because later he skirts the boundary to get Ezri to talk to him. And the fact he didn't learn the lesson after Chrysalis makes that relatively innocent act seem creepily predatory as well.
Side note: I don't think the writers actually realized that they made Julian creepy.
Influenced by a certain review in your Enterprise thread, I did this:
All those times I trolled Youtube searching for bizarre versions of What is Love, and I didn't find this masterpiece? It makes me feel bad that this is the last romance of the week episode.
Wow! I think there's real potential in the premise of Star Trek: Destroyager, someone should do a fanfic.
Review TOS or TNG next if you want to see more romance of the week.
It would have all the best parts of MU Trek: Captain's Wenches, and Lesbians!
...Oh wait, the captain is Janeway.
I was considering doing TNG next, but with an offer like that, I think I'll pass.
Is μChakotay μJaneway's wench? Because I can imagine him wearing nothing but leather straps and with a ball-gag in his mouth, and I get the feeling that a lot of Voyager fans have already fantasised about that scenario.
My theory is Janeway had him castrated after Caretaker. He was looking like he was going to be a dominant and interesting character on that episode alone. Boy did they trick us there.
Oh, don't worry, there's one or two of them that are actually somewhat good. If you do review it, you should count romances of the week. Along with Troi stating the bleeding obvious, Riker coming off as a sexual predator, Picard's speeches, and Worf getting beaten with ease by the alien of the week.
Are you alive? Were you killed by a disgruntled shopping mall Santa Claus?
He's fine. TheGodBen is Irish, and so celebrated Christmas and the New Year in a suitably drunk fashion.
Should be awake for Easter.
Hey now, we Irish break our drunken hibernation for St Patrick's Day. It's a holy day, after all.
Actually, the reason why I haven't gotten back to DS9 yet is because I'm watching Archer, which is awesome. There are so many references that I now get that I didn't before. I finally understand why other posters here refer to Captain Archer as Duchess, I thought it was because he was fussy and couldn't fight for shit.
Anyway, I'm almost finished Archer (and just in time for the new season to start) so I should be back to DS9 this week or next.
So you're watching ENT right?
Pfft, Jonathan Archer wishes he was half the man Stirling Malory Archer is.
I think Jonathon Archer just wishes he was half a man to start of with.
Yes... he does.
Which episode of Babylon 5 is that from again?
Once More Unto the Breach (***½)
Klingons are an odd bunch, they appear to be the most beloved of Star Trek's alien species, but it's very easy to get bored with their obsession with honour and bloodshed. As the last of the dedicated Klingon episodes, this episode suffers some for going over old ground, but it does enough differently to be an enjoyable episode. If Soldiers of the Empire was a generic Klingon episode, then this is more like a very special Klingon episode that explores the serious topic of ageing and dementia.
Kor is like the Klingons' version of Kirk, but while Kirk disappointed his admirers by falling off a bridge to save generic cave-dwelling species #238, Kor disappointed his admirers by failing to die. Now he's old and has the Klingon version of Alzheimer's, and he can't get a command of his own any more. Worf agrees to help him without bothering to check if Kor is mentally fit for command, and this results in a bunch of people dying unnecessary deaths. Kor makes a fool of himself in the middle of a battle and gets the date wrong by about a century, causing all the other Klingons to laugh at him. Still, could be worse, he could have developed incontinence as well.
In the end, the message is clear; people with dementia should commit suicide. Not wanting to go the Dignitas route, Kor decides to go out in a blaze of glory by stealing a ship and taking on a small fleet of Dominion vessels by himself. Thus, Kor gets a fitting mythic end that Klingons will sing songs about for generations, and he saved on travel costs to Switzerland.
The episode is good for the most part, but it feels very staged, with some scenes feeling particularly artificial. It was nice to see Kor one last time, and his death was fitting for the Klingon Kirk. It could have done without the b-story though, the sub-plot about Quark being in love with Ezri is just kinda pathetic.
I think it was the B5/ENT/QL crossover special but I could be wrong. Scott Bakula played everyone I think.
I find Once More Unto The Breach a bit boring. It's okay at first when Kor appears, but the rest just kind of meanders away.
I couldn't stand this episode; it made me feel so uncomfortable. I felt bad for Martok, of all people. I can't stand hero worship, especially when I know Kor's going to metaphorically crap his pants later. So I stopped at the scene in the mess hall when that one klingon is getting their nose extra brown, and then Martok walks in.
Same thing happened when Sisko kicks Rom off the team in the baseball episode. I guess I just have too much empathy, or something. I should play more violent video games.
I'm one of those crazy Klingon fans so I really liked this one. I especially like the look into Martok's backstory more than anything else.
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