The X-Men Cinematic Universe (General Discussion)

[DigificWriter]

^ See, there's that "trying to redefine what the term reboot means" thing again.

There's no such thing as a "soft reboot". End. Of. Story.

Why is it so impossible for people to use the term "reboot" the way it's meant to be used without all these meaningless and completely made up 'distinctions'?

 

[Reverend]

^Because words mean things? For someone who self identifies as a writer you have a bizarre attitude towards people having a nuanced vocabulary. Would you divide an entire library of literary works into simply "fiction" and "non-fiction"? Of course not, that'd be stupid.

Not everything fits into stark, binary categories. There are gradations, as I already detailed. You may not like it, but that's hardly relevant. It exists regardless of your personal preferences.

 

[JD]

Yes, it is. People can try to redefine the term "reboot" in relation to fictional properties all they want, but its true definition (to discard all previous continuity and start over from scratch) will never actually change.

I don't know if I'd call a reboot a cancellation, the series is still going on, just in a different form.

 

[Nerys Myk]

^ See, there's that "trying to redefine what the term reboot means" thing again.

There's no such thing as a "soft reboot". End. Of. Story.

Why is it so impossible for people to use the term "reboot" the way it's meant to be used without all these meaningless and completely made up 'distinctions'?

Computers? Footwear?

 

[Reverend]

I suppose if we want to get literal about things, all "reboot" really means is "start again". The how and the why of it is where the nuance comes in.

 

[LJones41]

X-Men is so old, it's pre-9/11 old. But I do still love it.

Eh.

 

[DigificWriter]

I suppose if we want to get literal about things, all "reboot" really means is "start again". The how and the why of it is where the nuance comes in.

There IS no "nuance" to the definition of the word as applied to fictional properties, but whatever. I'm clearly the "lone voice in the wilderness" here, and am consequently moving on because "talking to walls" is getting me nowhere.

 

[Gaith]

There IS no "nuance" to the definition of the word as applied to fictional properties

Well, we could agree with you, but then we'd all be wrong, and what good would that do anyone?

 

[Reverend]

There IS no "nuance" to the definition of the word as applied to fictional properties, but whatever. I'm clearly the "lone voice in the wilderness" here, and am consequently moving on because "talking to walls" is getting me nowhere.

"Lone voice in the wilderness"?
There, there, you brave courageous soul you.

But hey, just for the hell of it, try for one minute to consider this admittedly remote and nutty possibility: You're objectively and demonstrably *wrong*.

 

[One Lucky Red Shirt]

Im ok with them redoing dark phoenix as long as its a better attempt than x3 was. X1 might be an older film compared to all the new superhero films out there but it still holds up pretty good. Its a quick fast intro into the x universe. Just a shame x3 was rushed into production n most of the character development we had seen in x2 was missing. It was like a stepback from the previous film.

Even though a good dark phoenix is welcome, its a shame fox doesnt do other storylines such as Inferno, fall of the mutants or Photeus. The x universe just has too much out there f them to do instead of just rehashing the same old same old. When i was growing up i vivid remember loving the whole Inferno series. Lets do something good that hasnt been done.

Im a wolvie lover just like so many others but they overused him in the x films. They focused on him being the central character at the expense of most of the other characters, making them sidelines. Now since his run is over, here hoping we can see characters in the spotlight we really havent seen before Such as cyclops n storm.

Bring magneto back in the forefront as a villian would be cool. Like having him badass n seeing him do events that has major consequences, like killing off a major character. Lets hope fox does some good storylines in the future. Wheres the brood at?!

 

[JD]

The same place as the Shi'ar.

 

[Samurai8472]

Audition tapes are coming out for the roles of 'Colin, Shane, Sam, and Marie'

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-me...peculation-that-rogue-is-being-recast-a150727

marie is rumored to be a young Rogue.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ I don't think "rumored" is the rights word; "speculated" is better.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The X-Men TV show is likely to get an early pick-up...

Stan Lee to cameo in the pilot...

 

[DigificWriter]

It's being talked about elsewhere, but figured it would be pertinent to post the news here too.

The Gifted has officially been picked up.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...a-gifted-matt-nix-bryan-singer-series-1001952

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Fox Formalizes Simon Kinberg To Helm ‘X-Men: Dark Phoenix’; Jennifer Lawrence, Michael Fassbender, James McAvoy Back, Jessica Chastain In Talks

 

[kirk55555]

Fox Formalizes Simon Kinberg To Helm ‘X-Men: Dark Phoenix’; Jennifer Lawrence, Michael Fassbender, James McAvoy Back, Jessica Chastain In Talks

So a guy who has written two good and two mediocre X-Men movies, along with the worst Fantastic four movie is now getting to direct one. FOX really couldn't care less about the quality of their X-Men franchise at this point, could they? I mean, I like the X-en franchise. But after Apocalypse the franchise needs new blood creatively. Instead they're just doing more of the same. I'll give the movie a chance obviously, but even as a big X-Men fan (in general, and mostly from the comics although I at least like almost every X-Men movie) I really don't want to see the Phoenix again, and I certainly don't want Kinberg do get another shot at the story. I'm also not happy about Lawrence coming back. How much do you want to bet that they'll somehow find a way to make Dark Phoenix all about her, just because she's the most famous actor in the movie?

Well, at least we still have Deadpool 2 to get excited for. Josh Brolin revealed the results of his working out a few days ago, and he definitely has the Cable look, he just needs a hair cut/dyeing.

 

[DigificWriter]

"Quality" is an extremely subjective thing, and, as such, ultimately doesn't matter to FOX. What does matter is financial success , and the fact of the matter is that none of the X-Men films with which Kinberg has been involved have been financially disappointing.

 

[kirk55555]

"Quality" is an extremely subjective thing, and, as such, ultimately doesn't matter to FOX. What does matter is financial success , and the fact of the matter is that none of the X-Men films with which Kinberg has been involved have been financially disappointing.

Well, we know DC cared about its crap reviews, even though they were making money. Plus, FOX had to have noticed that the much more critically acclaimed Deadpool beat Apocalypse by about 200 million dollars. Days of Future Past, which was also liked a lot better by critics and audiences, also made over 200 million more then Apocalypse. Also, don't forget Kinberg also worked on Fant4stic, which while it technically made its budget back worldwide it almost certainly didn't make a theatrical profit when you consider marketing, etc. So, yeah, FOX cares about money. They also have proof that making movies that are generally enjoyed are much more of a financial success then their mediocre offerings.

FOX isn't DC. A movie with Batman can make a huge profit even if its garbage. The X-Men movies, while widely known, don't have the same draw power as DC's stuff, and does suffer from bad reviews.

 

[DigificWriter]

Enough people went to see the last four X-films with which Kinberg has been involved to make them financially successful, and FOX clearly believes in his ability to continue delivering financially successful films since they asked him to direct Dark Phoenix in addition to writing and producing it.