The Wrath of Khan alternative villain?

[Uxi]

Interesting idea. If it had been Kor or Kang, we could have been spared the TNG retcon of the Klingons as honorable when there wasn't a hint of that in TOS (or even in Star Trek III). Campbell's Koloth was anything but intimidating so he would have been a poor choice. They would have had to address the makeup thing, though, and it's not at all a given they would have went with the ENT solution or even Trouble with Tribbles ignoring the obvious. Still like John Ford's idea on it better.

Khan was a better choice.

 

[cooleddie74]

At least the ENT Klingons don't really lean into the "honor" thing except for Archer's lawyer in "Judgment." For all the mistakes ENT made over four seasons at least they did their best to have 22nd century Klingons be more like their TOS descendants, even down to explaining the lack of head ridges.

 

[Riley]

I'm shocked no one has suggested the most evil and destructive of all TOS villains:

REDJAC!!!!

A horror-themed TOS movie would have been quite an experience, maybe for Star Trek V.

 

[CoveTom]

At least the ENT Klingons don't really lean into the "honor" thing except for Archer's lawyer in "Judgment." For all the mistakes ENT made over four seasons at least they did their best to have 22nd century Klingons be more like their TOS descendants, even down to explaining the lack of head ridges.

I actually didn't like them explaining the change in Klingon appearance. We all know in real life it was simply evolution in budgets and makeup. I think the way DS9 dealt with it was the best. A brief joke and move on.

 

[BillJ]

If not Khan, it would have to be Gary Mitchell. Movie could play out in a similar way.

 

[BillJ]

I'm shocked no one has suggested the most evil and destructive of all TOS villains:

REDJAC!!!!

A horror-themed TOS movie would have been quite an experience, maybe for Star Trek V.

One of the things that you can guarantee is that Paramount would make the most generic movie possible once Trek became a cash cow.

 

[CoveTom]

One of the things that you can guarantee is that Paramount would make the most generic movie possible once Trek became a cash cow.

I don't know. I think that became true of the TNG films, definitely. However, one of the things like I like about the original six TOS movies is their variety. Much like the series, they told a variety of different types of stories. You had hard sci-fi and exploration with TMP. You have action/adventure space opera with TWOK and TUC. You had more intimate character drama with TSFS. You had a straight-up comedy with TVH. And you had an attempt at philosophy and religion with TFF.

Some worked better than others. But I feel like one thing that the TOS films did not do was to do the same thing over and over again.

 

[Pauln6]

Wrath of Shanna. After Kirk abandoned them, the thrallmasters built society around reality TV. After being forced to watch Real Housewives of Triskelion series 12, the survivors stole a ship, seeking revenge.

 

[Ssosmcin]

I always felt with a little rewriting of the backstory, The Wrath of Kang would have worked just as well.

Imagine Harve Bennett wondering instead what happened to Kang and Mara at the end of "Day of the Dove." Perhaps the Klingon empire banished them for failing to kill Kirk. Or maybe Kirk dropped them off at Ceti Alpha V with a transmitter to call for Klingon pickup - which never came. Now Kirk would really be the one to blame since he just dropped them off and never looked back.

Pick it up with them being discovered by Terrell and Chekov and it's the same movie.

 

[CoveTom]

Star Trek II: The Wrath of the Dove

 

[Riley]

I still think Redjac would have been a strong villain. Maybe Star Trek VI happens without the conspiracy aspect, replaced instead with a Klingon crew possessed by Redjac and seeking to destroy the Enterprise? There are a lot of possibilities and it wouldn't require a lot of explanation to get the audience up to speed on who and what Redjac is.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Star Trek II: The Wrath of the Dove

Wouldn't Kang be the Hawk though?

 

[CoveTom]

Wouldn't Kang be the Hawk though?

No, that was Sisko.

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