The weekly WATCHMEN episode sum-up

[JirinPanthosa]

Lost’s ending is over-hated. I think too many people expected somebody to step out of the shadows and say “Hahaha it was me the whole time for this reason!” It was an ending you had to pay close attention to understand the smaller details.

Did the bomber who killed her parents think he was doing good or was he just lashing out in anger?

I think it’s an important distinction between people who think they are doing good based on love, empathy, understanding and protection of life and people who think they are doing good by hurting those they think deserve it.

Yeah, the white supremacists thought they were doing good but they had a corrupt value system. Angela and RM had a positive value system.

 

[crookeddy]

I read an interview saying that the show will focus on race relations and white supremacy. That just doesn't sound like Watchmen to me, so I am a bit less excited.

I was really wrong. This show was VERY much Watchmen, and very much surpassed it's premise to be a transcendent level of "good". Best show of the year for me, and if I think back further it might be the best show of longer than that.

 

[Nerys Myk]

They covered that on "The Good Place". The unintended consequences of good actions having negative repercussions that you would never expect.

The bomber who killed Angela's parents thought he was doing good by attacking his oppressors and trying to help his people be free of them.

While I want a second season and want to see the results of "Sister Manhattan", I almost don't want one because my version of the ending in "Lady or the tiger" fashion is probably better than what they will write. I'm still wary of Lindhof because of the terrible ending of "Lost".

Sister Manhattan. I like that.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Polygon offers comparison between HBO's Watchmen sequel and DC Comics Doomsday Clock, their Watchmen sequel that brings the Watchmen characters in to DC Multiverse Canon, which, coincidentally (?), was released the same week that HBO's Watchmen finale dropped.

https://www.polygon.com/platform/am...oomsday-clock-final-issue-ending-hbo-watchmen

I'm not entirely surprised that Doomsday Clock doesn't measure up to what HBO did, but I'm still curious about reading it. Thankfully, I decided to wait for the whole thing to be released in trade paperback before indulging because the final issue was over a year late. I guess that's one thing Doomsday Clock has in common with the original story.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Crossing Watchmen over with conventional superhero properties is a big mistake IMO.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Crossing Watchmen over with conventional superhero properties is a big mistake IMO.

I tend to agree, but I'm still curious as to the result, despite the negative reaction. And I have always wanted to see more stories told in that world post- 11/2. HBO'S version will still be the superior version I'm sure, but as I said, I'm curious.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It was okay and it gave us two interesting villains in the form of Mime and Marionette.

 

[theenglish]

I have to read the final three issues of Doomsday Clock (reading the entire story from Issue #1). Where I left off, it really seemed to be an Elseworlds story that was completely separate from anything else going on in the DCU and with versions of established characters that just seemed "off". Taken as an Elseworlds story, I did find it an interesting concept.

 

[crookeddy]

I don't think I've ever been more fooled about what I was watching than I was with this show. It looked like a simple white guilt type of story and turned into anything but. I am anxiously awaiting Lindelof's next project, whatever it may be.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I have to read the final three issues of Doomsday Clock (reading the entire story from Issue #1). Where I left off, it really seemed to be an Elseworlds story that was completely separate from anything else going on in the DCU and with versions of established characters that just seemed "off". Taken as an Elseworlds story, I did find it an interesting concept.

According to the article, Doomsday Clock will have ramifications for the DC Universe moving forward, specifically...

Spoiler: Doomsday Clock 12

...the return of the Justice Society and Legion of Superheros into the canon.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Watchmen coming to blu-ray and dvd June 2 - https://www.comicbookmovie.com/amp/...es-arrives-on-blu-ray-dvd-this-summer-a173245

 

[gblews]

After almost 100 year’s, Tulsa school’s curriculums will include the massacre of 1921. I think Watchmen can take at least some credit for this most significant change.

As positive as this news is, I can’t help but lament the vast amount of American history is still being hidden or lied about.
https://www.theroot.com/the-1921-tulsa-race-massacre-will-officially-become-a-p-1841814944

 

[JD]

HBO will be putting the entire first season of this up for free this weekend, and will also be doing a marathon tomorrow on HBO and HBO Latino. I don't know if I'm going to try to watch all 9 episodes, but I might check out at least one or two.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Got it on Blu-ray, and I absolutely loved it. It's very powerful. I felt pretty emotional after watching it over a three day period (three episodes per day), like I'd been on a ride. To me, that's a high compliment, that it made me feel something.

 

[jaime]

HBO will be putting the entire first season of this up for free this weekend, and will also be doing a marathon tomorrow on HBO and HBO Latino. I don't know if I'm going to try to watch all 9 episodes, but I might check out at least one or two.

It’s not a ‘one or two episodes’ kind of thing tbh. I am not one hundred percent it sticks it’s landing, and it gets a bit rushed and muddled in the end build up....but it’s definitely very very good and worth watching. It works best if you have read the original, but the film also works to some extent alongside.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I think after the first couple you'd at least have a good idea if you want to pursue the rest.

 

[crookeddy]

I think after the first couple you'd at least have a good idea if you want to pursue the rest.

I disagree. It takes at least half the season to really see the subtlety of the show. Its easy to watch the first two and just assume its all about race baiting.

 

[gblews]

Its easy to watch the first two and just assume its all about race baiting.

Ironic, because Watchmen is a show that needs to be seen by people who use expressions like “race baiting, in particular. One of the reasons the Tulsa Massacre, as well as many many other racial atrocities, had been swept under the rug is because it would have been perceived by some as “race baiting” if it had been taught in schools or in media.

Anyone who watched the first few episodes of Watchmen and found it “easy” to dismiss it as race baiting needs to take a good hard look at who they really are. But on the other hand, maybe they know exactly who they are.

 

[crookeddy]

Ironic, because Watchmen is a show that needs to be seen by people who use expressions like “race baiting, in particular. One of the reasons the Tulsa Massacre, as well as many many other racial atrocities, had been swept under the rug is because it would have been perceived by some as “race baiting” if it had been taught in schools or in media.

Anyone who watched the first few episodes of Watchmen and found it “easy” to dismiss it as race baiting needs to take a good hard look at who they really are. But on the other hand, maybe they know exactly who they are.

Time to tone down the virtue signaling there.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Ironic, because Watchmen is a show that needs to be seen by people who use expressions like “race baiting, in particular. One of the reasons the Tulsa Massacre, as well as many many other racial atrocities, had been swept under the rug is because it would have been perceived by some as “race baiting” if it had been taught in schools or in media.

Anyone who watched the first few episodes of Watchmen and found it “easy” to dismiss it as race baiting needs to take a good hard look at who they really are. But on the other hand, maybe they know exactly who they are.

Agreed. Quoted for emphasis.