The weekly WATCHMEN episode sum-up
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well, I stand corrected
Veidt genetically engineers things. Hence his green world in an artic waste.
I do like the idea it’s a prison, with Manhattan dupes as guards...
But I think it’s just a chosen exile with genetically engineered toys.
Having seen the episode now, I think it’s likely Judd was not ‘active’ klansman, and that was his grandads (or his own from before) but atm it’s heavily a point...what is that klansman outfit other than a mask with a badge. Like *all* the ‘heroes’ we have so far. We know the ‘original’ hero was a criminal.
We have police taking on the identity of masked heroes and vigilantes (shades of punisher stickers....) the pulling down of statues. We have people who benefited from wealth earned a hundred years ago by their grandparents, sowing division in society between the haves and have nots. We have the father on ‘his day’ desperate for money (which means he too was a cop, since the children are all police children from White night...)
We have a *lot* of nuance.
It’s going to be very....interesting to see what people pull from it.
I do like the idea it’s a prison, with Manhattan dupes as guards...
But I think it’s just a chosen exile with genetically engineered toys.
Having seen the episode now, I think it’s likely Judd was not ‘active’ klansman, and that was his grandads (or his own from before) but atm it’s heavily a point...what is that klansman outfit other than a mask with a badge. Like *all* the ‘heroes’ we have so far. We know the ‘original’ hero was a criminal.
We have police taking on the identity of masked heroes and vigilantes (shades of punisher stickers....) the pulling down of statues. We have people who benefited from wealth earned a hundred years ago by their grandparents, sowing division in society between the haves and have nots. We have the father on ‘his day’ desperate for money (which means he too was a cop, since the children are all police children from White night...)
We have a *lot* of nuance.
It’s going to be very....interesting to see what people pull from it.
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Are you referring to Ozymandias?
I don't think this is quite accurate. From the canned "apology" given by the automated DNA testing machine, the reparations are being paid just as much for "pain and suffering" as for the loss of wealth. Not all of the black people who were killed in the massacre were wealthy. Descendants need only prove they are descendants in order to be eligible for reparations, not that their ancestors had wealth.
Nope. The Rolf Muller/Hooded Justice thing (Which is being pushed in narrative, even if it’s likely untrue.)
And yes..the ‘redfordations’ are totally managed and well done, but especially when li is being lined up with all the other line blurs, I think it’s worth a mention (incidentally, it looks like the compensation is not *just* for Tulsa, though maybe.) viewed through a slightly different lense with that in mind. (In my post I basically am picking out the slightly less obvious things that help make the narrative less clear cut. Especially as the show is very deliberately having the protagonist be and do things that wouldn’t get cheered on and supported by an audience too often....this is the first ‘good cop’ I remember seeing beat information out of someone in a contemporary drama since Andy Sipowicz, but I admit...I haven’t watched many lately XD)
So my comment there isn’t questioning how fair the redfordations are, or if they are morally right, just looking at how the are explicitly being shown in the story and thinking about how things may be being flipped. (So far, the ‘Nixoville’ residents are all poor, oppressed, and being racially profiled. They turn to violence in response to Police brutality. The writers appear to want us to think about that.)
I thought that was a grandfather. So his child was a cop, but not him. Or perhaps even his child was just married to a cop.
I would have assumed he was Angela’s ex-husband tbh. Still kind of do. But she’s regularly being shown with Cal for years.
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I like this episode more than the first two. The FBI woman is awesome.
Did Mars...explode at the end?
Did Mars...explode at the end?
Ok, the last episode was the first one I actually liked and found somewhat interesting (It may have something to do with the fact we're finally seeing some actual Watchman characters interacting.)
I liked this episode even though I thought the first two were more dynamic. It would stand to reason that Laurie Blake would be a total cynic with respect to masked crime fighters and the police. Jean Smart is doing a great job of conveying that cynicism. Great the we are getting more tie in with the original comics.
Laurie's conversation (or monologue) with Dr. Manhatten was fascinating. Also loved her confrontation with Angela. These two powerful forces are destined to work together, I think.
What is going on with Viedt is pretty interesting as well. Appears he may be "stuck" wherever he is. It might be a form of incarceration. His battle with the forrest ranger or whoever it was looks like it might be funny.
So, "She Was Killed By Space Junk." Wonder if Angela's car was the "space junk" and if so, are we being told that Will as rescued by Dr. Manhatten.
Laurie's conversation (or monologue) with Dr. Manhatten was fascinating. Also loved her confrontation with Angela. These two powerful forces are destined to work together, I think.
What is going on with Viedt is pretty interesting as well. Appears he may be "stuck" wherever he is. It might be a form of incarceration. His battle with the forrest ranger or whoever it was looks like it might be funny.
So, "She Was Killed By Space Junk." Wonder if Angela's car was the "space junk" and if so, are we being told that Will as rescued by Dr. Manhatten.
Some of the comments go WAY OVERBOARD, yes, but after the first episode, to me it did come across as VERY heavy handed, with very little connection to the actual WATCHMEN beyond a bunch of easter eggs and the Adrian Veidt character.
IDK - but with just 9 episodes to tell your story; not really giving a solid connection to WATCHMEN until the third is IMO taking a long time to get going here.
Yes, he might get more seasons, but that's never a sure thing so you think he be sure to move the story and not do such a long buildup to a real connection here. (Ep. 3 was the first one I liked/actually found interesting - and he could have got there by episode 2, at least introducing Laurie earlier.)
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Quoted for truth. Similar to Discovery which seemed like it was violating canon left and right, until they started trying to fix things in season 2.
OOO. Imdb as a source of dissatisfaction?!
It must be true, a "large" number of people!
Non-scientific opt-in polls don't necessarily indicate actual popular opinion. Who'd-a thunk it?!?
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