The weekly WATCHMEN episode sum-up
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Jupiter though is another thing entirely...
Again, it took long enough (considering what, there will be 9 episodes total) - but yeah, the last 3 have been good. I have some issue with the Adrian character being good enough to fully manipulate and predict a Robert Redford POTUS victory 7 years in advance, but hey this is comic book fantasy.
As to Adrian being imprisoned on a moon of Jupiter...What did Dr. Manhattan change his mind and decide to punish him afterall?
As to Adrian being imprisoned on a moon of Jupiter...What did Dr. Manhattan change his mind and decide to punish him afterall?
Maybe Adrian did something else naughty after the Squid.
Another great episode, for me. I thought Adrian was on Mars, so it was quite nice to have that little twist.
But, DAMN, that opening, great, wonderful, and we got to see the damn squid.
And I love the continuation of the idea that a super hero has had something fucked up happen to them in their past.
Tim Blake-Nelson is great... and if they kill him... PITCHFORKS!
I thought it was still antártica.
Now I think it’s Madame Trieu Who put him there.
With a gas giant in the sky?
Even then.
We saw earthbound portal tech in this very episode. That could explain how he got to a moon of Jupiter.
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Here's my favourite comment -
"They took everything that was good about Watchmen and Rorschach, then defecated all over it Last Jedi style. This isn't Watchmen, it's Wokemen, sorry, Wokepersons."
Loving the "everything good about Rorschach". For clarity, I really liked Last Jedi too.
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What, exactly could be considered "good" about Rorschach? he was an interesting character to be sure, but good is hardly the word I would use to describe him.
Exactly. But he's someone's hero, obviously.
If you only watched the Snyder movie, you could easily conclude that he's the hero of the story.
He didn't "sacrifice" himself to anyone but his only black and white ideals. Rorschach was mentally disturbed by the beginning of the novel. He fucking snapped when he tried to save the girl who was eaten by dogs. He was a fucking monster from that point on.
Nevertheless, he’s not a hero to be looked up to. None of them are. They are all damaged fucked up people. They are not people to aspire to. Especially Rorschach who is so trapped by his code he needs someone to kill him because he can’t walk away.
Dan can’t get a boner without beating people up. He’s not a monster, but he needed help.
He’s the power fantasy personified.
Oh, Laurie's not damaged at all, and her pursuit of men who are unemotionally available isn't something to be worried about. Not one bit. That's totally healthy.
OK, I haven't actually read Watchmen, but from the bits and pieces I've picked up about it, I was under the impression that the whole point of the book was that none of them were actually good people who we should look up to, and that the only people who would actually become superheroes were severely damaged individuals with serious mental issues.
I wouldn't say they aren't "good" people. Dan and Laurie and Hollis are good people. The Comedian is definitely not. But, they are all damaged in someway and on a continuum. Some more damaged than others.
It turns the idea of aspirational superheroes upside down. These are people with problems, not just icons and characters of myth.
Moore was able to do it in this book because it's a one off, but, Batman is superfucked up. His parents died and in his grief decades later he spends his vast fortune on fetish gear, goes out at night to beat people up. And lets not talk about his continual recruitment of young people on his war on crime.
Superman is an orphan, twice over in certain continuities, with access to technology that could help the world, but, he goes around beating people up.
There is something to be said of having aspirational characters, and one can look at Batman and Superman as such--turning a grief into a light to push back the darkness, but, there's another side of it we choose to ignore because it's less Pow, Bang, and Zap!
That's a way of thinking about Superman. It's not how I personally want to think about him. I love that he's a beacon and has got his shit together. But, one wonders how did he get his shit together.
Superman is an icon and a myth, because he doesn't seem fucked up. It both makes him a light in the darkness but it also removes him a bit from the rest of us--for good or bad. And in someways makes him a challenging--yet not impossible--character to write.
But, it's also interesting to look at the other side of the icon as well.
The difference with Superman is 1) He had a healthy normal upbringing before learning he was an alien and 2) He has a more significant advantage over the bad guys than Batman.
I like the FBI agent’s nihilist attitude toward superheroes and what she considers anarchist.
I like the FBI agent’s nihilist attitude toward superheroes and what she considers anarchist.
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