The Walking Dead Season 5
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Nah... He's not as dweeby
It was completely unnecessary. Homosexuality put in there just because it is homosexuality. The gay agenda strikes again.
"THERE ARE NO GAY PEOPLE IN THE AFTERMATH OF A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!!"
Are you being sarcastic or are you 13 years old?
I'm with you, man. I'm so tired of Abraham and Apocalypse Barbie shoving their heterosexual agenda in my face along with Abraham's erect nipples in a wet tank top. It's heterosexuality put in there just because it is heterosexuality, and someone got the crazy idea that that's a thing that exists in the world. Completely unnecessary. The straight agenda strikes again.
What is the agenda, exactly? Acknowledging that gay people are a real thing? I must have missed the part where they were only granting admittance to the Alexandria Safe Zone if you converted to The Gay, like it's choosing a religion.
I love that we had a zombie gore car wash and zombie brains turns into scrambled egg with a flare gun in this episode, but the only thing that really bothers Brent is that two men expressed affection for one another. You've got issues, man. Gay people exist. Fucking deal with it and stop being on the wrong side of history.
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Gay people exist, grow up.
The notion that gay people could survive the zombie apocalypse is of course completely ludicrious. They wouldn't be able to run away from the zombies while they were carrying all their autographed Depeche Mode posters and stylish pants.
Any smart zombies would just set traps for the gays, just leave some men's hair care products out in the middle of an open road and wait for the gays to show up.
First of all, the comic-book characters they are based on are gay. So not sure how the unnecessary placement applies in terms of the "Gay Agenda." (Which is, to be treated like everyone else.)
Secondly, gay people exist. Deal with it. They have every right to be represented as a group of people in a TV series rather than be ignored.
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They will settle in and be happy for a nanosecond before the "wolves" who destroyed Noah's home attack this place. I haven't read the comics, but this seems pretty likely.
I think it was more than just wolves. Something drove through their fence, cut up some zombies (leaving their arms and legs outside the fence) and stored their torsos (with numbers carved on their foreheads) in a truck.
Wolves may have finished the job though.
In the comics, as I understand it, they were in the ASZ for quite some time (may even still be there?) They has scrapes and skirmishes but the size of the group and their resources allowed them to hold. This really could be a pretty big turning point in the direction of the series and what'll happen in the next leg of it if they stay in the ASZ for a good long while and (if/when) Rick becomes the leader there.
I didn't mean 4 legged wolves. I think these people who destroyed Noah's home might call themselves "wolves". There was the phrase "wolves notfar" written on the inside of the wall around the destroyed complex. You can see it just after that episode starts when they first enter.
Everyone take it easy. There's no need for antagonism on any side here.
Brent... that may be your opinion, but please find a less caustic way of expressing it, please. To those in response to him, your opinions are likewise yours but please do your part to keep tensions down.
Brent... that may be your opinion, but please find a less caustic way of expressing it, please. To those in response to him, your opinions are likewise yours but please do your part to keep tensions down.
Funny thing is, about Aaron and Eric, I loved that introduction of them being a couple. I thought it was extremely well done, no spotlight on it or anything. Wish more shows/writers understood how to introduce Gay couples so organically. Oh, and I never received my copy of The Gay Agenda for some reason. Anybody happen to have an extra copy, so, I can find out what evilness I'm supposed to be engaging in.
Regarding the change from episode to episode of the groups's badassed-ness, I think it's generally been pretty consistent, and it's when they are the most worn out, hungry and tired where they're shown to be the most vulnerable to Zombie attacks. That certainly is true for the changes throughout these first 3 episodes. Last couple of weeks they could barely stand they were so worn out
Danai Guirira, yea, I love her appearances on The Talking Dead. She has a very healthy approach to acting, always looking at the characters and the script on multiple levels and considering character motivations.
Regarding the change from episode to episode of the groups's badassed-ness, I think it's generally been pretty consistent, and it's when they are the most worn out, hungry and tired where they're shown to be the most vulnerable to Zombie attacks. That certainly is true for the changes throughout these first 3 episodes. Last couple of weeks they could barely stand they were so worn out
Danai Guirira, yea, I love her appearances on The Talking Dead. She has a very healthy approach to acting, always looking at the characters and the script on multiple levels and considering character motivations.
I will say this about the gay "reveal". It plays less organically that you have to do it in a "Reveal" at all, but if they hadn't done that & had introduced the character such that we knew all along that he was gay, then it would've undermined the tension of him possibly being a potential threat or villain
What they ought to do but couldn't is when he was asked who he was with & said one person. He could've just said "My husband or boyfriend" or whatever, & it would have been out there naturally, but that would've destroyed the suspense
Because the minute this audience finds out that a character is gay, it's like a billboard going up that says "This character is NOT a villain, because we don't want people to think The Walking Dead is disrespecting Gay People"
I actually think they were smarter about it with Tara. Just a much more natural development there. Not so much drummed up for attention value. I think the show suffers from that type of sensationalism. Just put gay people in there normally, like they're normal people... because they are. If there's to be a relationship arc then let it come out naturally like with any other characters. Just my opinion on the presentation
The "Reveal" tactic for a relationship is for something that has dramatic consequences or potential conflict, like when they did the reveal that Shane was shacking up with Lori. Now THAT you do in a reveal.
But two people that are just in a relationship? The only reason to do that in a reveal is that it must be treated "differently", & I personally don't believe it should. It shines an awkward spotlight on what shouldn't be awkward at all
What they ought to do but couldn't is when he was asked who he was with & said one person. He could've just said "My husband or boyfriend" or whatever, & it would have been out there naturally, but that would've destroyed the suspense
Because the minute this audience finds out that a character is gay, it's like a billboard going up that says "This character is NOT a villain, because we don't want people to think The Walking Dead is disrespecting Gay People"
I actually think they were smarter about it with Tara. Just a much more natural development there. Not so much drummed up for attention value. I think the show suffers from that type of sensationalism. Just put gay people in there normally, like they're normal people... because they are. If there's to be a relationship arc then let it come out naturally like with any other characters. Just my opinion on the presentation
The "Reveal" tactic for a relationship is for something that has dramatic consequences or potential conflict, like when they did the reveal that Shane was shacking up with Lori. Now THAT you do in a reveal.
But two people that are just in a relationship? The only reason to do that in a reveal is that it must be treated "differently", & I personally don't believe it should. It shines an awkward spotlight on what shouldn't be awkward at all
A character being reunited with someone they love and running to kiss and hug them is a scene that has been repeated on the show dozens of times. Why when it's a gay couple is it singled out as some kind of awkward and inorganic "reveal" moment? It's not some huge event that needs a gradual build up, it was just a kiss between two people who love each other who happen to be men.
With those that don't like it? I don't know. They could go back to the 50s maybe?
Agreed. It didn't seem to me to be a "Gay" reveal, but, more a relationship reveal (which happens to be a Gay relationship). It was put out there, as soon as they were reunited.
Back when all zombies were white and Republican. Fine American zombies.
For what it's worth, in the comics the presentation is a little different. It's not Eric who is the one that gets injured and shoots the flare. They meet up with him earlier on his four-wheeler and talk a little bit for introductions. Then, once business is out of the way, they hug and share a tender moment about how they missed each other. It worked a little more organically, but I don't really see the problem with either presentation. If presented like the comic, it may have ruffled less feathers, but it seems like some people need to have their feathers ruffled.
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