The unnecessary reboot/remake of the week thread

[PCz911]

I think it was more that because there was an unknown actor playing Bond, they hired a well-known actress for the female lead (Rigg having been in the Avengers). Had Connery been in the lead, they would probably have been content to get a less famous - and cheaper - actress to co-star.

Oh I see you point.

But didn’t goldfinger use honor Blackman who - ironically - was replaced on the avengers by rigg? From what I read, the biggest issue with the avengers were they grossly underpaid their female leads.

Sir Sean in OHMSS would have been interesting. Maybe being challenged to do more than one emotion as Bond would have brought out his acting chops and playing against Rigg would have lifted up his performance.

 

[Starkers]

Oh I see you point.

But didn’t goldfinger use honor Blackman who - ironically - was replaced on the avengers by rigg? From what I read, the biggest issue with the avengers were they grossly underpaid their female leads.

Sir Sean in OHMSS would have been interesting. Maybe being challenged to do more than one emotion as Bond would have brought out his acting chops and playing against Rigg would have lifted up his performance.

Famously a lot of the camera operators were paid more than Dame Diana was.

Re Connery in OHMSS, for me I can't see Connery, certainly 60s Connery, ever being that cut up that a woman's died. Sure there are moments, the death of Aki for instance, but I can't see him playing utterly broken the way George did.

 

[Owain Taggart]

For me, I think much of it goes with the era in which they were made, where perhaps emotion coming from a man wasn't thought of as being appropriate. Bond has evolved along with the different eras, but from what I understand Fleming was inspired by multiple people during the war, including spending time in Canada at a training camp called Camp-X.

 

[Captaindemotion]

No idea how credible this guy is, but he’s claiming that Heat 2 is facing studio pushback due to a $200m budget request from Michael Mann. The studio may be more amenable to an increased budget if Leonardo DiCaprio signs up, as he claims is also the case. Presumably he would be in the DeNiro role.

When I read the book, I wondered who could play the roles, without resorting to the de ageing that The Irishman used. I kinda think Adam Driver would be a better Neil McAuley than LDC. You’d never confuse Christian Bale for Pacino but I can see him capturing elements of Al’s OTT performance in that movie. And maybe Austin Butler would be as good a replacement for the late Val Kilmer (forget Tombstone, for me, this was his career high) as we’re likely to get.

Edit: forgot the link! https://puck.news/newsletter_conten...lirtation-heat-2-crunch-anistons-apple-issue/

 

[Captaindemotion]

Sorry for the double post: Daniel Kaluuya’s Spider-Punk from the Spiderverse movies is to get his own spinoff:

‘Spider-Verse’ Spinoff ‘Spider-Punk’ in the Works With Daniel Kaluuya

The "Spider-Verse" is expanding again.

variety.com

 

[tharpdevenport]

How about just the punk guy from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, wearing a Spider-Man punk-like outfit, going around flipping people off? He made a cameo Spider-Man: Homecoming flipping off a bad guy.

 

[Captaindemotion]

So, are Chris Pine or Paul Wesley too young for the lead?

‘T. J. Hooker’ Reboot Film Lands at Netflix

An action-comedy film adaptation of William Shatner's '80s cop series 'T.J. Hooker' is in development at Netflix.

variety.com

 

[Aragorn]

This is just getting lazy. There's nothing particularly unique about TJ Hooker. You could remake TJ Hooker scripts, call the show Officer Smith and no one would notice. They just want a recognizable title to draw in nostalgic viewers.

 

[Captaindemotion]

This is just getting lazy. There's nothing particularly unique about TJ Hooker. You could remake TJ Hooker scripts, call the show Officer Smith and no one would notice. They just want a recognizable title to draw in nostalgic viewers.

I was thinking that too. With other comedy remakes, Starsky and Hutch, we knew the blond and the dark haired guy, the car and Huggy Bear. CHiPS has Jon, Ponch and the bikes. But people only remember Hooker for The Shat and Heather Locklear in a bikini. How many jokes will we get out of that?

Remember when one of the characters auditioning for a new TJ Hooker show was one of the running jokes in True Romance?

 

[tharpdevenport]

This is just getting lazy. There's nothing particularly unique about TJ Hooker. You could remake TJ Hooker scripts, call the show Officer Smith and no one would notice. They just want a recognizable title to draw in nostalgic viewers.

Yeah, that was just one of a bunch of shows from the 1970's, 1980's, and even some onward from that, that had nothing unique or particularly remarkable about them, it was just the lead; the lead of screen presence and/or a "look", could lead a show.

Could this maybe be the case: I remember reading years ago studios would do remakes or what not to existing I.P.'s that were going to lapse into the public domain in order to renew the copyright for another period of time (something like that).

 

[Starkers]

I was thinking that too. With other comedy remakes, Starsky and Hutch, we knew the blond and the dark haired guy, the car and Huggy Bear. CHiPS has Jon, Ponch and the bikes. But people only remember Hooker for The Shat and Heather Locklear in a bikini. How many jokes will we get out of that?

Remember when one of the characters auditioning for a new TJ Hooker show was one of the running jokes in True Romance?

I always thought Zmed was a funny name, plus TJ Hooker starred Vic freaking Fontaine!

 

[Captaindemotion]

I always thought Zmed was a funny name, plus TJ Hooker starred Vic freaking Fontaine!

Instagram recently threw Adrian Zmed’s account up in a “you might like…” sort of way. I didn’t follow him but had a nosey and he seems to be a very nice guy. His sons do an Everly brothers tribute act! Random fact of the day.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Could this maybe be the case: I remember reading years ago studios would do remakes or what not to existing I.P.'s that were going to lapse into the public domain in order to renew the copyright for another period of time (something like that).

That's my thinking too, for similar reasons why we see live-action remakes of animated movies. Outside of Hawaii Five-0, i don't think remakes of this type have been all that successful. Only other one I can think of is the Magnum P.I reboot which was considered successful, but both of these have had unique things going for them in the first place, while T.J Hooker outside of Shatner was already derivative, which might have been developed as a Shatner vehicle. As a show, it'd consider it rather obscure.

 

[Aragorn]

Hawaii Five-0 remake lasted 10 seasons, Magnum PI and MacGyver lasted 5, V lasted two but I think they knew they had a stinker because they had a shorter second season and killed most of the main cast in the final episode, Charlie's Angels barely got through a handful of episodes.

There's a whole "lightning in a bottle" and "product of its time" factor that they don't seem to take into consideration. Or even what made the original show successful -- what does Charlie's Angels have to do with slick super spies?

 

[tharpdevenport]

The remake "S.W.A.T." seems to be successful.

Cancelled after eight seasons, cancellation reversed, came back for a ninth season, getting a spin off, and finally cancelled a second time (no second reversal yet).

 

[Owain Taggart]

There's a whole "lightning in a bottle" and "product of its time" factor that they don't seem to take into consideration. Or even what made the original show successful -- what does Charlie's Angels have to do with slick super spies?

That too. I think it could also possibly be said that yesterday's nostalgia doesn't always make for great shows. Because like you say, so much of it is a product of its time, and trying to redo it may come across as forced and disingenuous, lacking the inspiration and intent of the originals. Lord help us if they eventually decide to do a modern version of All in the Family, yet try to reign in it, missing the point entirely in the end.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Trailer for the spinoff or sequel to The Office (which itself was the first of several remakes of the original British show, across various countries)

‘The Paper’ Trailer: ‘The Office’ Offshoot Follows a Struggling Newspaper Staff That Includes Oscar Martinez

Peacock has released the first trailer for 'The Paper,' a spinoff of 'The Office' that follows a struggling Midwestern newspaper.

variety.com