The unnecessary reboot/remake of the week thread

[137th Gebirg]

Really hope it's better than the 2006 film with Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx. That thing sucked absolute ass (IMO) and was quite forgettable. Some people thought it was underrated. Rotten Tomatoes has numbers. Pretty lackluster.

If they can (he's a bit on the older side - around 77 now), I'd like to see them try to get Jan Hammer to compose a new score for it. If they're going to do it, they need to do it right. Atmosphere played a big role in the series and the music was a core part of that atmosphere. That should be re-captured if they're trying to do a nostalgia piece.

 

[tharpdevenport]

I imagine it could be a children's movie. There's no way they aren't getting him into all sorts of misadventure. I'd call it Jar-Jar's No Good Very Bad Day.

If Jar Jar Binks = O.J. Simpson in that boat scene from the first Naked Gun movie...

 

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‘Desperate Housewives’ Offshoot ‘Wisteria Lane’ In Works At Onyx From Kerry Washington & Natalie Chaidez

Wisteria Lane, a reimagining of the ABC dramedy Desperate Housewives, has been set up for development as a new TV series with Kerry Washington as EP.

deadline.com

 

[Jayson1]

"Desperate Housewives" without Marc Cherry? What's the point?

 

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‘Road House 2’: Guy Ritchie to Direct Sequel to Amazon MGM’s Hit Action Movie

Jake Gyllenhaal will reprise his role of ex-UFC fighter-turned-bouncer.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

'Alita: Battle Angel’ Director Drops Exciting Update on Long-Awaited Sequel

Robert Rodriguez says he still wants to do another 'Alita: Battle Angel' movie as Alita's journey in the Iron City isn't over.

collider.com

 

[Commander Troi]

I'd actually like to see a sequel to Alita.

 

[Jayson1]

I'd actually like to see a sequel to Alita.

So would I. LIked that movie.

 

[XCV330]

old news but new to me:

Sleeping Dogs movie is dead, says star Donnie Yen

‘You know how Hollywood goes’

www.polygon.com

There was going to be a movie based on the video game Sleeping Dogs. It's seemed very likely but no longer.

I'm not usually keen on video game movies but since this video game was heavily inspired by a couple of John Woo films, it would have made an awesome take on the classic HK crime action film. I'm still not counting it entirely out, though.

 

[Set Harth]

I'd actually like to see a sequel to Alita.

Yeah, that story was in no way finished. But I thought there was no hope for a sequel!

 

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Matthew Lillard In Talks To Join ‘Carrie’ Amazon Series

The 'Carrie' TV series' at Amazon MGM Studios has Matthew Lillard in talks for a role, sources tell Deadline.

deadline.com

Disney TV Studios Chief Eric Schrier On Big Fox Animation Deal, Global Originals Strategy, ‘Buffy’ & Other Reboots, Backend Model & Filming In L.A.

In an interview, Disney TV Studios boss Eric Schrier discusses big Fox animation deal, reboots and talent deal and backend strategy amid contraction.

deadline.com

 

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‘Little House On The Prairie’ Netflix Reboot Finds Its Laura Ingalls In ‘Lessons Of Chemistry’s Alice Halsey

10-years-old Alice Halsey (Lessons in Chemistry) has landed the role of Laura Ingalls in the Netflix 'Little House On the Prairie' series reboot.

deadline.com

 

[Aragorn]

Elephant Man is being remade with Adam Pearson (Under the Skin, A Different Man), the actor who has NF1.

 

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Rina Sawayama to Reprise Role as Akira in Donnie Yen’s ‘John Wick’ Spinoff ‘Caine,’ Lionsgate Launching Sales in Cannes (EXCLUSIVE)

Directed by and starring Donnie Yen, the action thriller — the latest expansion of the John Wick universe — is being launched in Cannes by Lionsgate

variety.com

 

[Alex1066]

To me, the problem with remakes and reboots is that if something was successful and has a large fanbase, then of course hollywood wants to capitalize on it. However, it's very rare they can make something that holds up to the beloved original. Often, they do not know why something was successful to begin with. My go to example is Robocop. The 1987 original was loved by its fans for its mix of social commentary, visceral violence and black humor wrapped up in a neat sci fi concept.

From interviews, I get the feeling that the director of the 2014 remake did not get to make the film he signed up for. He spoke about his ideas getting rejected time and again after he agreed to do the film. According to the star of the movie, he got in trouble for stating the film was going to have an R rating, because the studio had different ideas. It seems that Sony wanted to make Robocop, but a far more marketable version that would not have the outrageous elements that made the first one so memorable.

The end result is far from the worst movie ever. There are interesting elements and a decent story. However, it feels like a safe slick hollywood flick from beginning to end. The eccentricities that drove Verhoeven to make the original the way he did was completely absent and the film quickly fell into near obscurity. That is a pretty typical example of the remake phenomenon.

I would rather they remake a film that had good ideas but failed a bit in the execution. The problem is those films generally dont have the built in fanbase that the studios are looking for. Keeping with Sci fi, I would love to see a Logan's Run remake. While I like the original just fine, the film falters a bit once the characters leave the dome city and the third act is kind of a mess. The visuals were weak even for its time in places, and I think that there is a better version of the film to be made. The concept and story is solid. Its not a completely obscure movie but I rarely see it referenced by anybody who was not watching movies in the 70s and 80s.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

My go to example is Robocop. The 1987 original was loved by its fans for its mix of social commentary, visceral violence and black humor wrapped up in a neat sci fi concept.

While the remake's stab at ''black humor'' was pathetically pandering.

 

[oktay]

To me, the problem with remakes and reboots is that if something was successful and has a large fanbase, then of course hollywood wants to capitalize on it. However, it's very rare they can make something that holds up to the beloved original. Often, they do not know why something was successful to begin with. My go to example is Robocop. The 1987 original was loved by its fans for its mix of social commentary, visceral violence and black humor wrapped up in a neat sci fi concept.

From interviews, I get the feeling that the director of the 2014 remake did not get to make the film he signed up for. He spoke about his ideas getting rejected time and again after he agreed to do the film. According to the star of the movie, he got in trouble for stating the film was going to have an R rating, because the studio had different ideas. It seems that Sony wanted to make Robocop, but a far more marketable version that would not have the outrageous elements that made the first one so memorable.

The end result is far from the worst movie ever. There are interesting elements and a decent story. However, it feels like a safe slick hollywood flick from beginning to end. The eccentricities that drove Verhoeven to make the original the way he did was completely absent and the film quickly fell into near obscurity. That is a pretty typical example of the remake phenomenon.

I would rather they remake a film that had good ideas but failed a bit in the execution. The problem is those films generally dont have the built in fanbase that the studios are looking for. Keeping with Sci fi, I would love to see a Logan's Run remake. While I like the original just fine, the film falters a bit once the characters leave the dome city and the third act is kind of a mess. The visuals were weak even for its time in places, and I think that there is a better version of the film to be made. The concept and story is solid. Its not a completely obscure movie but I rarely see it referenced by anybody who was not watching movies in the 70s and 80s.

Now Amazon is planning a reboot as a TV series. I hope they make a TV series that fits the mindset of the original movie.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Well, my additional take -- feel free to disagree all you want:

Modern Polished-turd Hollywood is doing several things at once. Aside fro mthe fact a large profit from their films is now made in China and that they make the films to be allowed by the Chinese Communist Party to even be shown there (sometimes even alternating films or changing trailers wildly), they are trying to make films they hope will have wide appeal and be as least offensive as possible, lest their trigger-babies get triggered and need to feed off the tits of social justice warriors. Then, of course, they don't see films as just a film, they now see it as a series of films, which may or may not be tied into other film universes, with built in potential for spin-off's and prequels. Nothing (in the general sense) can just be a good self-contained story anymore.

 

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John Wick: Chapter 5 Will ‘Be Really Different’ With ‘A New Story’, Teases Chad Stahelski

Keanu Reeves' return as John Wick will take audiences on a different journey with the master assassin. Read more at Empire.

www.empireonline.com

You can’t keep a guy like John Wick down. As many shady underworld figures have learned to their cost, Baba Yaga simply keeps coming back. Except, John Wick: Chapter 4 seemed to somewhat close the book on Keanu Reeves’ bullet-spraying assassin. In the fourquel’s final reel, Wick seemed to succumb to his injuries in Paris, with audiences shown his tombstone for good measure – though, technically, we didn’t actually see the character die. Now, we know he will indeed be back in the recently-announced Chapter 5. But according to director Chad Stahelski, there’ll be more to Wick’s return than meets the eye.


“The saga of John Wick was pretty wrapped up,” he admits to Empire. “So the only way to do a 5 is to have a new story that involves John Wick. It’s not a continuation, with the High Table. John dealt with his grief. It will be really different, and everybody [will] see the trailer and go, ‘Holy fuck... I gotta see that.’” Of course we will – it’s a John Wick movie.




For now, there’s plenty more from the Wick-iverse arriving in the meantime – not just Ballerina (set after Chapter 3, and due to feature an appearance from Wick himself) and Donnie Yen’s Caine spin-off movie, but also an animated prequel film about Wick’s initial escape from the assassin game, and the Under The High Table TV series. Those latter two in particular will lay the groundwork for where John’s story goes next. “The John Wick TV show and the animation are big priorities,” confirms Stahelski. “Our idea is to try some things and explore some threads and use those two properties to catapult us forward into the ideas for John 5.” Time to schedule in an appointment with the Sommelier, then.

 

[oktay]

Modern Polished-turd Hollywood is doing several things at once. Aside fro mthe fact a large profit from their films is now made in China and that they make the films to be allowed by the Chinese Communist Party to even be shown there (sometimes even alternating films or changing trailers wildly), they are trying to make films they hope will have wide appeal and be as least offensive as possible, lest their trigger-babies get triggered and need to feed off the tits of social justice warriors. Then, of course, they don't see films as just a film, they now see it as a series of films, which may or may not be tied into other film universes, with built in potential for spin-off's and prequels. Nothing (in the general sense) can just be a good self-contained story anymore.

Fewer Hollywood films will be shown in China, and in recent years we have seen that Hollywood films that have been successful around the world have not been successful in China.