The Ultimate New Series.

[All Seeing Eye]

The series is set in the 25th century, the Federation has just aquired Transwarp and is pushing out into unknown space.

Meanwhile the Borg are busy rebuilding. We find out that following the virus and death of the Queen (in Voyager) a new advanced experimental Borg drone was activated and took control of the collective and eradicated the virus, this new male drone is far more human like in thinking and begins to utilise information aquired when future Janeway was assimilated. The Borg begin constructing a new class of ship and upgrading remaining ships with Transphasic torpedos, deployable armour and stealth technology. The borg begin to assimilate again in order to rebuild their numbers since a large percentage of the collective was destroyed by the virus and they begin reconstructing transwarp conduits. However the collective is far more fearsome, the new Borg leader is unlike any drone before, he begins upgrading Borg drones with energy weaponry and an extra method of assimilating, by shooting assimilation darts, he also assimilates planets by firing nanoprobe torpedoes into planetary atmospheres.

Meanwhile the Federation has come across a new race, a race that is unwilling to make any form of contact and who seems to be aggressive, no attack has been made against Federation ships but the newly discovered race is conquering pre-warp civilisations and is pushing it's territorial border closer and closer to Romulan space, the Romulans arnt happy and are currently suffering political instability, the Romulan military leaders decide to fortify their Empire and increase ship building capacity. (later in the series it is revealed the new race is in fact and offshoot of humanity, humans were abducted from earth centuries beforehand and planted on a planet far from Earth, these humans however evolved into an aggressive people).

Meanwhile a new advanced Borg Cube detects a Federation ship on sensors but instead of preparing for assimilation the Borg are ordered to fall back and not engage the Federation. It is revealed that the Borg no longer intend on assimilating the Federation, in fact it turns out the new Borg 'king' intends to assimilate the entire galaxy and leave the Federation until last. The Federation has been the greatest threat to the Borg to ever exist and the new Borg leader has no intention on giving the Federation the chance to destroy them again. During this time the Borg also launch an attack on the Dominion in order to assimilate their cloning capability, having assimilated a number of Vorta the Borg begin construction of a Borg cloning facility to begin cloning Jem'Hadar drones, as the Dominion begin to launch a counter attack the Borg forces fall back to Borg space and use the new aquired cloning technology to assimilate neighbouring civilisations.

Meanwhile following the borg attack on the Dominion the Federation begins to upgrade their ships with all the technology brought back by Voyager and shares it with the Klingons. They also fortify the entrance to the wormhole. The Founders request help against the Borg incase of a future attack but the Federation having realised the Borg wont attack them are unwilling to render assistance.

Meanwhile the 'offshoot humans' ships appear to have been upgraded with the tech brought back by Voyager, the Romulans believe the Federation has shared the technology with them but the Federation insists it is espionage, the Romulans consider it a lie and declare war against the Federation.

More to come later.....

 

[RobertScorpio]

I actually like this idea for a book series. But I doubt it will ever be done because of its ties to Berman era trek...but I do like the concept!! Well thought out and with good intrigue.

Rob
Scorpio

 

[Deks]

Messed up technology.
By the time of 25th century, all of the technologies Voyager brought back would have been in use for some time and also would have underwent plenty of advancements due to the passage of time.
So the Borg, if they incorporated technologies that Janeway brought back (and they only assimilated the armor) would do little good against the Feds who would have found countermeasure by that time-frame.
Also keep in mind the virus completely destabilized the collective ... so it's entirely possible no information on the future techs remained within the hive to build upon.

And the Feds were never perceived by the Borg as a greatest threat.
They dealt a crippling blow to the Borg yes, but are a far cry from being an actual threat.
The Borg, if they survived, can easily regain their advantage or at least an equal footing by doing some clever decisions.
So if you would have to do something with them, then eliminate the king concept and focus on the collective mind itself (which is far less likely to make the same mistakes like a single leader would).

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Messed up technology.
By the time of 25th century, all of the technologies Voyager brought back would have been in use for some time and also would have underwent plenty of advancements due to the passage of time.

Doesnt seem likely, the Federation may have decided to keep the technology under wraps because it was brought back from the future, bringing back the tech may have had an impact on the future development of it, meaning whoever naturally invented it this time never did. Also the Federation might have kept it underwraps in order to not disrupt the balance of power in the Quadrant, the Romulans really wouldnt be happy if the Federation suddenly employed advanced weapons and armour.
Also when I say 25th century I might mean the year 2400, only 20 years ahead of DS9 and Voyager.

So the Borg, if they incorporated technologies that Janeway brought back (and they only assimilated the armor) would do little good against the Feds who would have found countermeasure by that time-frame.

Which is precisely why the new collective does not attack or engage the Federation incase the Federation pose a significant threat to them.

Also keep in mind the virus completely destabilized the collective ... so it's entirely possible no information on the future techs remained within the hive to build upon.

Nothing is canon so if I want the collective to retain the knowledge assimilated then that can be done.

And the Feds were never perceived by the Borg as a greatest threat.

No they wern't but the Borg Queen considered them a thorn in her side and even went as far as to develop a new method of planetary assimilation. Following the virus, the death of the queen and the destruction of a large part of the collective never before achieved its reasonable to assume the new Borg would be less eager to engage the Federation in a fight.

So if you would have to do something with them, then eliminate the king concept and focus on the collective mind itself (which is far less likely to make the same mistakes like a single leader would).

I disagree, the collective as has already been established in canon needs a primary drone to control the collective, my new concept of a superior king like drone, a drone far more intelligent and cunning than the Queen can breath new life into the Borg and bring them back to the time when they were undefeatable and menacing. My new King concept is more machine then usual drones and with a human brain. Imagine something like from the film 'I Robot' but with a brain inside.

"The Collective will not fail, you will be assimilated"

 

[All Seeing Eye]

More to come later.....

and here it is:

The Romulans launch an invasion across the Neutral zone and engage the Federation before they can upgrade the rest of the fed fleet, the attack is unsuccesful and the Federation/Klingon torpedos and armour prove highly effective against the Romulans who suffer instant heavy losses, before anyone realises what's happening however the 'Offshoot humans' who have been sitting in wait launch their own attack against Romulus and conquer the Romulan Empire taking everyone off guard.

Meanwhile Admiral Janeway is brought before the Federation council to answer questions in regards to the Borg and alternate future Janeway, the council holds her responsible for the Borg acquisition of advanced technology and the even greater threat the Borg pose against the Galaxy, they also hold her responsible for the current poitical and military situation in the Alpha Quadrant.

Meanwhile a newly upgraded Prometheus class ship en-route to Cardassia is intercepted, attacked and crippled by the 'offshoot humans' and the crew is tortured and interrogated for information about the Borg. The offshoot humans have sent information anonymously to the Dominion about transphasic torpedoes and armour, they intend to provoke a war between the Dominion and the Borg, while the Borg and Dominion are at war the offshoot humans intend to develop a Borg crippling weapon that can penetrate the new advanced armour and render it useless. With this new weapon they intend to take down the Borg, Dominion, Federation and Klingons in an all out attack and become the dominant empire in the Galaxy.

 

[Deks]

Keeping the technology Voyager brought back under wraps is pointless because the timeline was ALREADY changed the moment Admiral Janeway went back into the past.
They might not see a light of day for 2 or 3 years at most because they might want to analyze it, but after that, SF would be denying themselves important breakthroughs that could possibly help them out in future encounters with the Borg.
I've read preliminary text on what 'Before Dishonor' stated and I find it a bit stupid Janeway would not consider the possibility the Borg might pose a threat post-Nemesis.
After so many dealings with them she was more cautious of the Collective than her older counterpart and I think that's one of the aspects she would not change in the near future.

The concept of the queen was introduced in FC.
Prior to that, at their very first encounter, Troi indicated that they don't have a single leader.
It's also possible the collective developed a Queen specifically to see how she would fair against humans and if she will be beneficial to the Collective overall.
A Borg king regardless of how superior can easily make mistakes.
The queen had access to the sum of Collective knowledge and look at how miserable she proved to be in dealing with humans.
I would agree the Collective might be cautious with the humans in the future because of the virus and the destruction that was caused ... but truthfully, I find it hard to buy they would implement the queen or a king for that matter.

Still, it's your idea, and your rules.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I would agree the Collective might be cautious with the humans in the future because of the virus and the destruction that was caused ... but truthfully, I find it hard to buy they would implement the queen or a king for that matter.

If that part of the story was fleshed out i think it would work...but, as I said earlier, CBS or Paramount wont touch anything that has to do with BERMAN era trek..I see this as a book series perhaps..

Rob

 

[Deks]

It is possible the Borg suffered because they had a leader that was able to make mistakes.
But take into consideration how prior to the concept of Queen, they were virtually unstoppable.
I can see the Feds developing better techs to defend against the Borg in the future, but it's also very possible that eliminating the 'leader' would smarten up the collective and a truly deadly game could once again commence.

But I suppose it could just as well be done if they had a 'king' as well.
However I just thought it would have been interesting to have the collective eliminate the need for a leader after the catastrophe that happened with the Queen vs. Janeway.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Just because the Queen was a catastrophe doesn't mean this new Borg 'King' will be, like I said this alpha drone is a completely new type of drone, completely artificial but with a human brain inside, the drone was developed by the Queen as a tool against humanity but was kept offline for the time being, when the virus infected the collective the Queens last dieing action was to activate the new drone. The new drone upon activation ordered infected Borg to terminate and then shut down the hive mind to prevent the spread of the virus, he then re-activated it and began re-building after suffering huge losses. Its smarter and more ruthless than the Queen but at the same type not blinded with a superiority complex which is why this new borg leader is unwilling to engage the Federation in combat. We no longer have to ask the question why dont the Borg launch their entire fleet against the Federation because now we have 2 reasons why, 1) They've suffered huge Delta Quadrant losses and 2) they dont want to give the Federation the opportunity to damage the collective again until the rest of the Galaxy has been conquered.
We can have a new collective that we see assimilating entire civilisations and being evil, ruthless and once again unstoppable when all the while the Federation lives in peace and harmony unaffected by the Borg.
Would a Federation unaffected by the Borg be willing to do anything? would the Federation be willing to help the Dominion? would the Federation be willing to get involved in the Delta Quadrant where the Borg are rebuilding and assimilating like they always have?
Dont forget, this new Borg are different in other aspect also, they're willing to utilise cloaking devices and drones are now upgraded with new assimilation techniques and arm based energy weapons, they no longer wait until they're fired upon to consider you a threat, they just immediately assimilate you.

The possibilities with this new Borg Collective and Borg leader is endless.

 

[jealousblues]

The series is set in the 25th century, the Federation has just aquired Transwarp and is pushing out into unknown space.

Meanwhile the Borg are busy rebuilding. We find out that following the virus and death of the Queen (in Voyager) a new advanced experimental Borg drone was activated and took control of the collective and eradicated the virus, this new male drone is far more human like in thinking and begins to utilise information aquired when future Janeway was assimilated. The Borg begin constructing a new class of ship and upgrading remaining ships with Transphasic torpedos, deployable armour and stealth technology. The borg begin to assimilate again in order to rebuild their numbers since a large percentage of the collective was destroyed by the virus and they begin reconstructing transwarp conduits. However the collective is far more fearsome, the new Borg leader is unlike any drone before, he begins upgrading Borg drones with energy weaponry and an extra method of assimilating, by shooting assimilation darts, he also assimilates planets by firing nanoprobe torpedoes into planetary atmospheres.

Meanwhile the Federation has come across a new race, a race that is unwilling to make any form of contact and who seems to be aggressive, no attack has been made against Federation ships but the newly discovered race is conquering pre-warp civilisations and is pushing it's territorial border closer and closer to Romulan space, the Romulans arnt happy and are currently suffering political instability, the Romulan military leaders decide to fortify their Empire and increase ship building capacity. (later in the series it is revealed the new race is in fact and offshoot of humanity, humans were abducted from earth centuries beforehand and planted on a planet far from Earth, these humans however evolved into an aggressive people).

Meanwhile a new advanced Borg Cube detects a Federation ship on sensors but instead of preparing for assimilation the Borg are ordered to fall back and not engage the Federation. It is revealed that the Borg no longer intend on assimilating the Federation, in fact it turns out the new Borg 'king' intends to assimilate the entire galaxy and leave the Federation until last. The Federation has been the greatest threat to the Borg to ever exist and the new Borg leader has no intention on giving the Federation the chance to destroy them again. During this time the Borg also launch an attack on the Dominion in order to assimilate their cloning capability, having assimilated a number of Vorta the Borg begin construction of a Borg cloning facility to begin cloning Jem'Hadar drones, as the Dominion begin to launch a counter attack the Borg forces fall back to Borg space and use the new aquired cloning technology to assimilate neighbouring civilisations.

Meanwhile following the borg attack on the Dominion the Federation begins to upgrade their ships with all the technology brought back by Voyager and shares it with the Klingons. They also fortify the entrance to the wormhole. The Founders request help against the Borg incase of a future attack but the Federation having realised the Borg wont attack them are unwilling to render assistance.

Meanwhile the 'offshoot humans' ships appear to have been upgraded with the tech brought back by Voyager, the Romulans believe the Federation has shared the technology with them but the Federation insists it is espionage, the Romulans consider it a lie and declare war against the Federation.

More to come later.....

this actually sounds like a good idea for a book or something.
Its interesting with the the human version of Romulans or something

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I have another idea now also, the Captain of the new ship of the series once served onboard a ship during the Dominion war (as a ensign helmsman) and that ship was one of the 14 surviving ships of the seventh fleet that first fought against the Dominion. In the pilot episode we get to hear about the battle and we get flash backs of the battle of the seventh fleet and we get to see the Dominion wipe out 98 Federation ships.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Are there any interesting people and some stories anywhere in this?

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Are there any interesting people and some stories anywhere in this?

As a matter of fact i've had previous threads in relation to my idea which provided episode guides and character info. I'll see if I can find them.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Original idea for bringing back the Borg for a new series.

Star Trek:Hephaestus was an idea I had for the new ship of the series with a few quick episode ideas.

This thread I started about the Mirror Universe gave me my further idea of having an offshoot evil human enemy for the Federation for a future series aswell as the Borg come back.

This was my thread featuring more detail about an offshoot evil human enemy for the federation.

I'm hoping to eventually put together some kind of series synopsis with further episode guides and ideas for introducing the races and a list of characters with detailed biographies.
There have been threads where I posted detailed ideas that dont seem to show up when I search, doesn't go back far enough, for example I had a beautiful detailed bio for the Captain, a captain Christopher Bennett half human and half Al Aurian.

 

[hellsgate]

Fire: There's some really good starship sketches at the "Starship Intrepid" fan production's forums that would serve well as your "U.S.S. Hephaestus".
A nasty new Borg King, born to wreak havoc on the Federation....a reborn Christopher Pike from Talos 4, as a result of a temporary Dominion-Borg alliance plot during the war? Perhaps a member of the NX-02 Columbia's crew or its' Captain?

 

[Wonderlust King]

So you basically want voyager, deep space nine, and tng all over again?

Sure two of those were great shows, but christ lets see something new!

 

[darkshadow0001]

I actually like this idea for a book series. But I doubt it will ever be done because of its ties to Berman era trek...but I do like the concept!! Well thought out and with good intrigue.

Rob
Scorpio

What do you mean? Transwarp Drive was mentioned in Star Trek III:The Search for Spock, and Berman era Trek was fine until the Internet made it disappear. Now we have no Trek at all except for a stupid re-imagining which could work or not.

 

[smeos]

The Borg are done, IMO. Voyager put all four nails in that casket by portraying them as a bunch of wusses. A new threat, especially with transwarp available would be better. The Borg could still show up of course, but they were at their best when they were a menacing presence and not much was known about them.

As for them "needing a queen", that has merely been implied. The queen died in FC, and they seemed all right after that, even appointing a new one. There's nothing more than speculation to suggest that they're not capable as functioning as a single collective entity . . . which makes them all the more frightening.

As for the future tech . . . I'm not a fan of indestructable ships. There's always the problem of negating excellent chances for tension and drama because the technology is too high. If only the Federation had them, then they wouldn't need to outfit more than a few ships with them. If the Romulans did attack with conventional technology, then a few of those ships could fight their way to Romulus and force a surrender.

That said, everything comes down to characterization and writing. If those are good, then even the most outlandish plots are easily acceptable . . . even to me.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

As for the future tech . . . I'm not a fan of indestructable ships. There's always the problem of negating excellent chances for tension and drama because the technology is too high. If only the Federation had them, then they wouldn't need to outfit more than a few ships with them. If the Romulans did attack with conventional technology, then a few of those ships could fight their way to Romulus and force a surrender.

That said, everything comes down to characterization and writing. If those are good, then even the most outlandish plots are easily acceptable . . . even to me.

The thing about my idea is that because of the Borg having the so called future tech the Federation and Klingons implement it, then the new 'offshoot humans' aquire it, other than the Romulans the main superpowers have equal tech and since the series is set further in the future anyway there's really no reason to believe that the other powers in the Galaxy such as the Breen or Tholians dont have their own tech advances aswell which can counteract the armour and torpedos. You're forgetting that the armour and torpedos were already invented and implemented in Janeways lifetime so the armour and torpedos should already be around in the 25th century anyway. Also dont forget that I said as the series progresses the 'Offshoot Humans' develop an armour piercing weapon which pretty much makes the armour obsolete or at least less effective.
Also the series (initially at least) is based on a ship with transwarp exploring the outer reaches of the Alpha Quadrant, theres no reason to believe that there arn't any other superpowers out there with more advanced and uniquely different weapons and other technologies.

As for your mention of the Romulans I explained that the Romulans get over run and conquered pretty much instantly by the 'offshoot humans' with the armour and torpedos. As the series progresses we get to see how the Romulans deal with being a conquered people and we get to see Romulus under 'Offshoot human' control.

BTW just a little spoiler for everyone, in one of the episodes we see the inside of an 'offshoot human' technology development centre (where they're building the armour piercing weapon) and we get a glimpse of a piece of technology being developed that can send images of people back in time, we see that the tech is in its very early stages, only capable of sending images back by only a couple of minutes. It's a nice little nod to the temporal cold war and it makes it clear to the viewers that the future guy in Enterprise turns out to be an 'offshoot human' in the future when the tech is developed a lot further.

EDIT: The Alectea Empire (Offshoot Humans).

 

[Dukhat]

Don't get me wrong. I'm sure you have some good ideas, if I had bothered to read what you wrote. But I didn't, and here's why. Once I first glanced at the word "Borg," I immediately lost all interest in the rest. Voyager had done the Borg to death. Not only that, they cheapened the threat that the Borg really were, and on top of that, insinuated that they all died at the end of "Endgame."

I never want to see or hear the Borg again.