The supernova that destroyed Romulus

[Sean Aaron]

On the other hand, we can imagine the Hobus explosion releasing (for whatever reason) a "subspace blast", which would turn every star it eventually reaches into a nova. This way, we can salvage the peculiarity of the Hobus star, the time-scale of the phenomenon, the fact that it is a threat to the entire galaxy, and the actual destruction of the planet Romulus.

Too bad nothing of this is supported in the movie or the comic, of course.

So, what Star Trek II should establish is that the "real" Trek universe has been completely destroyed to reassure the fans that they haven't forgotten about it!

 

[iguana_tonante]

On the other hand, we can imagine the Hobus explosion releasing (for whatever reason) a "subspace blast", which would turn every star it eventually reaches into a nova. This way, we can salvage the peculiarity of the Hobus star, the time-scale of the phenomenon, the fact that it is a threat to the entire galaxy, and the actual destruction of the planet Romulus.

Too bad nothing of this is supported in the movie or the comic, of course.

So, what Star Trek II should establish is that the "real" Trek universe has been completely destroyed to reassure the fans that they haven't forgotten about it!

I don't know what you mean. It just means that the Romulan system was the one closest (or the inhabited one closest) to the Hobus star, before the blast was stopped by Spock's red matter. I don't understand why should ST2 enter the discussion either.

 

[Sean Aaron]

I'm presuming the next film will simply add a 2 to the end; if as you propose the explosion from the Hobus star would cause a chain reaction to cause other stars to go nova (threat to the galaxy) then it could just continue on, thereby wiping out the "original" Trekverse.

Seems like a win-win!

 

[SalvorHardin]

I'm presuming the next film will simply add a 2 to the end; if as you propose the explosion from the Hobus star would cause a chain reaction to cause other stars to go nova (threat to the galaxy) then it could just continue on, thereby wiping out the "original" Trekverse.

Seems like a win-win!

Since Orci & Kurtzman had Spock being successful in saving the Prime universe by the end of Countdown I doubt they will have it destroyed in a sequel.
Nor have they showed any intention of doing so in any interviews.

That storyline served its purpose and is now more than likely over.

 

[Sean Aaron]

I only saw the movie once -- how did he save it, but not Romulus?

 

[SalvorHardin]

I only saw the movie once -- how did he save it, but not Romulus?

I said he saved it in the Countdown comics which deal with this whole backstory, not in the movie.

He used the red matter and the Vulcan method of creating a black hole with it to devour the exploding star.
He didn't save Romulus because he wasn't in time mainly due to political & mistrust issues.

Of course one can say that Countdown is not canon and since it's not in the movie anything can happen.
But since the story of the comics is also written by O & K and in combination with various interviews they've given we get an idea of what their opinion on the subject is.

 

[iguana_tonante]

I only saw the movie once -- how did he save it, but not Romulus?

Spock dropped the red matter into the supernova and it collapsed into a black hone, but the explosion have already reached and destroyed Romulus. No, distance-wise it doesn't make any sense, I know. But that's what we got. You see now the urge to retcon that to something less surreal?

 

[OneBuckFilms]

I only saw the movie once -- how did he save it, but not Romulus?

Spock dropped the red matter into the supernova and it collapsed into a black hone, but the explosion have already reached and destroyed Romulus. No, distance-wise it doesn't make any sense, I know. But that's what we got. You see now the urge to retcon that to something less surreal?

It's possible that the gravitational pull from the new Black Hole may have warped subspace to make the waves of destructive energy dissipate.

Like taking the wind out of the sales of the subspace shockwave, so that the distortion of SpaceTime by the shockwave is then localized.

It's quite possible that the effect would then be localized.

 

[iguana_tonante]

It's possible that the gravitational pull from the new Black Hole may have warped subspace to make the waves of destructive energy dissipate.

Like taking the wind out of the sales of the subspace shockwave, so that the distortion of SpaceTime by the shockwave is then localized.

It's quite possible that the effect would then be localized.

My main problem with that is, how could Spock's throw his red matter capsule in the heart of an explosion which would be, at the time of the destruction of Romulus, at least several light years in radius? That's damn huge.

 

[Sean Aaron]

My god, it's even worse, isn't it? I didn't even register that they just kind of skipped "the rest of the galaxy" aspect of the threat after showing Romulus get destroyed and went straight into Spock time-traveling.

I have to say that I enjoyed the film, but the story was definitely the weakest aspect of it. If the acting wasn't so good I really would have no use for it, but on the back of a story that's not substantially better than any of the TNG-era films I don't feel any strong desire to see this one again much less own it...