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The stigma of being a virgin loner (must end)

Ever notice that lots of females in the 16-25 year age frame seem to be really turned off if they find out a guy interested in them is a virgin?
 
I don't care if someone is a virgin and I think that it's possible to give advice on a situation that you haven't personally experienced. Most advice is crap anyway, but that doesn't stop any of us.
 
OH I know it's possible to give it. Sometimes the people with the least life experience spend the most time in the advice threads :lol:

"A relationship is about truly valuing each other and trust is the bedrock.. blah blah".
 
I actually believe in a lot of the cliches. Trust and communication do form the foundation for a good relationship, romantic or not.
 
They are a starting point, yes. But people can be very complex as can their relationships and the cliches don't offer them anything useful because they already bought that greeting card.
 
The posts by scotpens and MANDT are, i think, are the kind of thing the OP is annoyed by.
I just made a little Pope joke. I sincerely hope no one has the impression that I give a rat turd whether other people choose to have sex or not. Because I don’t.
 
^I figured as much, but it was something I could work with, so.... I took it the ball and ran with it.

You are proceeding from the idea that a romantic relationship and a sexual relationship are mutually inclusive, that is false.

:rolleyes:

It is a good thing you don't plan on adding sex to your romantic relationships if you view it as a crutch.
I guess its my fault for using that term, but you misunderstand my usage of it, Ive seen it happen time and time again that Sex can be used to mask, or soften problems in a relationship temporarily. So Yes, Sex can be, and Often is used as a Crutch.

By The Way, does anyone else think Sex Crutch sounds like a name for a really cool Classic Rock Band?

as for the rest, Cliches are Cliches for a reason, but beyond that, Respect, Faith, Trust, Communication are all foundations for a relationship that wont go soft(pun intended)
 
You know what? I get tired of being told that people are losers unless they have gotten laid/ gotten pussy/ felt the touch of a woman.

Also, I also get tired of the idea that people are "sad" or "pathetic" if they are loners without a girlfriend/boyfriend. I don't need a companion to be happy in life.

I am celibate, and I just want to let out my opinions.

I may disagree with people's lifestyles that involve lots of sex, but at least I disagree respectfully.

First of all, you're talking to the wrong people if you're hearing things like that from them. If you are a happy, well-adjusted and content person, then it seems odd that anyone would feel the need to criticize you (unless you're still in high school or something and you have no choice over who you interact with). I can definitely say that my life has been shaped by having many relationships, and a solid mix of having been single and together, in long-distance and short-distance, and well. I've always required regular intimacy and the excitement and fulfillment of being in relationship with someone you really care for.

People bring the stigma upon themselves by..

Petulantly whining about not having a girlfriend and how it isn't fair because they are really a good guy but girls only like jerks.

Not being happy for people who are in relationships, instead making it all about how they are all alone.

Being high and mighty about the morals of sex when they've never had sex ("I may disagree with people's lifestyles that involve lots of sex").

Posting advice in relationship threads when they've never been in a relationship. Inevitably this advice is quite pious and full of earnest commentary about the importance of communication. Sometimes it's so shiny with naivety it's painful.

I don't think people in these situations are voluntarily abstaining from sexual activity... they just have social issues or other problems that make it difficult to engage the opposite sex. Sometimes there's depression there.

Sex and intimacy are rather integral parts of being a human. Unless there's some extenuating circumstance, it's not terribly healthy to be complacent living life without those things.

I think this is true for most people, but I have heard of some people (in rare circumstances) being solitary and largely asexual (having little to no care/desire for sex or intimacy). I personally find such a thing kind of sad.

Sex and intimacy are rather integral parts of being a human. Unless there's some extenuating circumstance, it's not terribly healthy to be complacent living life without those things.

You don't need sex to be "human" or "healthy". This is also an attitude that I am getting tired of.

Well... even someone who is asexual and not interested in sex need only read literature, history and poetry-- engage in personal friendships and watch T.V. to know that sex and intimacy are essential parts of the human condition. The fact that they aren't for you is all fine in good, but I think it's fair to say most people crave those things at an instinctual level.

To be honest, your post comes off as a bit defensive. You seem more upset with cultural norms than any specific criticisms of your lifestyle choice (which, I can assure you, most people could care less).
 
I think I'd be offended to if someone implied that my decision meant I wasn't experiencing the human condition properly, or whatever. Yes there are certain things that are inherent in most people but not everyone needs everything. To me it's like having kids. That's an urge that might be there for many people, even most, but lacking that desire doesn't necessarily mean you're lacking or sad.
 
I guess its my fault for using that term, but you misunderstand my usage of it, Ive seen it happen time and time again that Sex can be used to mask, or soften problems in a relationship temporarily. So Yes, Sex can be, and Often is used as a Crutch.

It's not a crutch, it's a tool. Sex is intimate and the intimate problems of a serious relationship can often be worked through in the intimate affections of the bedroom. Sure it can soften problems, it puts them in perspective sometimes. Do you love this person? Sex is a great reminder of that, and a reconnecting of your closeness.
 
As someone who sees sex and sexuality in everything, I understand how sex can bolster or destroy a relationship. It is extremely powerful. It is the height of physical intimacy between human beings. Still, for me, the most important aspect of a relationship is trust. If there is love and trust, the physical manifestations will fall into order. I just don't consider the sexual aspect of a relationship as important as everything else.
 
I think I'd be offended to if someone implied that my decision meant I wasn't experiencing the human condition properly, or whatever. Yes there are certain things that are inherent in most people but not everyone needs everything. To me it's like having kids. That's an urge that might be there for many people, even most, but lacking that desire doesn't necessarily mean you're lacking or sad.

The posts by scotpens and MANDT are, i think, are the kind of thing the OP is annoyed by.
I just made a little Pope joke. I sincerely hope no one has the impression that I give a rat turd whether other people choose to have sex or not. Because I don’t.

I wasn't annoyed by the Pope joke. I admit that I don't have sex for religious reasons (I'm a Christian, but not the Catholic kind), along with the fact that I don't want to deal with having children, or the risk of STDs, etc.

I am respectful if you are an atheist, or are of another religion, and have a different view on sex. I'm not telling you to be abstinent, so why should people tell me that I need to get laid?
 
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I think people should be happy with who they are. Screw everyone else.

Okay, maybe "screw" isn't the best word I could have used given the subject, but you get the point...
 
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