Spoilers The Starfleet Museum

[Deks]

I always felt like while the Enterprise-B made its own legacy, there was probably a dark cloud looming over her considering that by a lot of people's point of view (In-universe and OOU) the Enterprise-B was the ship that killed James Kirk. and a lot of people probably stopped and went "Oh hey there's Captain Harriman, he killed James Kirk."

If you were talking about people today, yes... in Trek, I don't see why this would be the case.

People in the Federation would likely be more exposed to basic methods of science, capable of critial thinking and applying proper context to the situation (plus the news would have been reporting what actually happened).

The ENT-B was responsible for rescuing refugee El-Aurian's... and given the amount of systems it didn't have at the time, the crew had to get creative (but in all honesty, the ship shouldn't have been going anywhere, even as part of a simple ride around the block without all systems in place).
Offering the reporters a tour is one thing, but leaving drydock without all systems installed.. nope.

Harriman DID offer to go down and reconfigure the deflector, but Kirk decided to go in his stead as he said to Harriman the captain's place is on the bridge.

Problem is, many ships didn't make the cut by being displayed in the Fleet Museum... and that could be because they were destroyed or lost... but received honorable mention in the Museum anyway (like the ENT-C).

 

[Dukhat]

The Excelsior class survives into the TNG era, so there would be no reason why the Ent-B would be replaced with the Ent-C unless the ship was lost or destroyed. It's possible that they decommissioned it for political reasons, perhaps wanting a new Enterprise flagship every 20 years or so, but that seems unlikely. I just don't like the fact that yet another Enterprise was lost or destroyed way before its time (nil, C, D, and possibly E and F.)

 

[Skywalker]

The original NCC-1701 lasted longer than the D, E, and F combined; I wouldn't say it was destroyed before its time.

 

[Dukhat]

The original NCC-1701 lasted longer than the D, E, and F combined; I wouldn't say it was destroyed before its time.

What I meant by that was Morrow’s nonsensical line about the Enterprise being decommissioned because it was ‘20 years old.’

 

[Skywalker]

What I meant by that was Morrow’s nonsensical line about the Enterprise being decommissioned because it was ‘20 years old.’

Oh, right! I forgot about that absurdity.

 

[cooleddie74]

That only works if the time is counted from Kirk's time as her Captain, but even that wouldn't make sense for the overall age of the ship. It's just one of those lines of dialogue like "well, the time barrier's been broken" that has some in-universe explanation you just have to head canon to your own satisfaction or outright ignore.

 

[Macintosh]

Maybe Morrow grew up on a planet that had years twice as long as Earth's?

 

[Dukhat]

Or he was just an idiot. (or more specifically, whoever wrote Morrow’s lines.)

 

[DEWLine]

Morrow got his dates mixed up. Twenty years since the last major refit? I dunno at this point. In any case, Morrow wanted Kirk where he could keep tabs on him...and that went awry.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Morrow got his dates mixed up. Twenty years since the last major refit? I dunno at this point. In any case, Morrow wanted Kirk where he could keep tabs on him...and that went awry.

I thought that, too, but at one point I worked out the numbers and even if you make TWOK about 10 years after TMP it wouldn't be close to 20 years. 13 or so but not 20. To me it was just a major flub on Bennett's part and was probably only thinking about TOS up to then and not Pike's or April's time.

Then again, it was 1984. While there were some things published, there wasn't the definitive timeline for everything yet. Still, ignoring that there had been an episode showing a mission 13 years prior to TOS was a mistake.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

A real nitpick of mine is that they got the rotation off on the New Jersey's nacelle caps. I'm always used to them rotating inward and not both rotating the same direction.

 

[DEWLine]

Different manufacturer for the nacelles?

 

[thribs]

What I meant by that was Morrow’s nonsensical line about the Enterprise being decommissioned because it was ‘20 years old.’

I’m surprised they never fixed that line. Wouldn’t be that hard to change it 40

 

[cooleddie74]

Different manufacturer for the nacelles?

Or just how the Fleet Museum decides to run the Bussard collectors. Since the ship is no longer on active duty, expected to be spaceworthy and slated to use its warp engines maybe the nacelles are programmed to look a certain way because, well, it's just the choice of Geordi or somebody else on the Museum staff.

 

[Tomalak]

I’m surprised they never fixed that line. Wouldn’t be that hard to change it 40

As if Nimoy would give two shits about that line.

He really means “Star Trek is twenty years old.”

 

[thribs]

As if Nimoy would give two shits about that line.

He really means “Star Trek is twenty years old.”

I mean recently when they remastered it into 4K.

 

[Captain_Amasov]

Do we know how much time is supposed to have passed between TMP and Search for Spock in-universe?

 

[thribs]

TMP is supposed to be the early 2270’s and Star Trek III is 2285.

 

[cooleddie74]

There are 12 years between TMP and TWOK, further reinforced by Icheb's statement in "Q2(VOY)" that Kirk's most celebrated five-year mission ended in 2270 and we know at the start of TMP that Kirk hasn't logged a single star hour in two and a half years. So 2273.

 

[mattman8907]

Sometime I wish they would've decommissioned the Original Enterprise (NCC-1701) after the end of Kirk's FYM (be a nice highnote to end with), then have the refit Enterprise be the -A. (it still could've had the length of service the Refit Enterprise (2270s-2285) had). Basically they would've pushed each following Enterprise (-B, C, D, E, F, and G) off by one letter with the -G being the -H.