And T'Pau. Who openly mocked Spock and Humans.
I never did understand the claims that Enterprise got Vulcans "wrong".
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And T'Pau. Who openly mocked Spock and Humans.
I never did understand the claims that Enterprise got Vulcans "wrong".
Yes in terms of the viewer accepting Enteprise is the history of the TOS years then the Vulcans were always flawed. T'Pau was always a racist lol
Vulcans never came across as paragons of virtue in any capacity. Enterprise got them spot on.
Ditto. There's a tendency to idealize the Vulcans because Spock is so admirable, but, as far back as TOS, they were hardly role models for the humanity. Heck, even Spock admits that his father is capable of cold-blooded murder if he has a logical reason to do so.
There was nothing at all revisionist about ENTERPRISE's portrayal of Vulcans.
Regarding the dislike of -ENT- Vulcan portrayals, I've come to the conclusion that a LOT of the problem is that everyone just talks, however is comfortable to them. Even a nothing part like Stonn, in TOS, had this actor sounding like English really wasn't his first language. Another nothing part, on VOY, Vorik sounded very formal when spoke, like using big words came naturally to him. But in -ENT-, everybody talks like they were born in the USA.
Star Trek has always taken real life and transformed it into stories. Its part of Trek's DNA
T'Pau is the only Vulcan I can think of who sounded like English wasn't their first language. The rest spoke formally but with American accents. Maybe, a few were British, though.
Couple of things, I like the idea that unless Kirk or McCoy were being directly addressed, the Vulcans weren't speaking english to each other
Also that the Vulcans were all speaking in rarely used formal language and not in a everyday Vulcan dialect/language. This is where T"Pau's "thee's" was coming from.
Good point. Heck, even as a kid, I realized that "A Private Little War" was really about Viet Nam, that "The Mark of Gideon" was about overpopulation, and need I mention "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"?
It's not like TOS was all that subtle when it came to reflecting the Nightly News.
Subtle is not in Trek's DNA.Good point. Heck, even as a kid, I realized that "A Private Little War" was really about Viet Nam, that "The Mark of Gideon" was about overpopulation, and need I mention "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"?
It's not like TOS was all that subtle when it came to reflecting the Nightly News.
It's surprising that given some of Gene Roddenberry views APLW supports providing weapons and assistance so the hill people can maintain their freedom. Errand of Mercy too, where Kirk offers the Organians to ability to fight back and make the planet worthless to the Klingons.
Roddenberry wasn't a pacifist during the production of TOS.
Heck, it's perhaps worth remembering that some of the people who worked on TOS had actually served in the Armed Forces during WWII and the Korean War.
Richard Matheson, for instance, fought in the Battle of the Bulge, I believe, and, of course, James Doohan famously stormed the beaches at Normandy.
Richard Matheson, for instance, fought in the Battle of the Bulge, I believe, and, of course, James Doohan famously stormed the beaches at Normandy.
Roddenberry himself was a combat pilot...
http://www.military.com/veteran-job...ansition/famous-veteran-gene-roddenberry.html
I always assumed that in ENT's time, T'Pau was speaking Vulcan which was rendered into English via the universal translator. But in TOS, the older T'Pau was trying to speak English directly, which could (if she was unfamiliar with the language) explain the accent.
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