"The Savage Curtain" Remastered comments
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Somebody needs to tell Okuda that a change over 1000 square miles wouldn't cover 1/8 of the planet!
What do B&B have to do with Klingon Foreheads?
The Orlando, Florida station shows these Saturday afternoons, and the past few weeks there's always been a beeping severe weather warning crawl and a giant map of Central Florida onscreen during the show. Very little point to any remastering!
I would think that it would depend on how big the planet was.
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
I still like this episode. It's just so dumbly amusing, plus it introduces fictional heroes and villains like Khaless, Surak, Col. Green and some guy named Lincoln.
Why no Hitler? Was Green worse than Hitler? And that Tiburon crazy woman?
Of course they were all who Spock and Kirk expected them to be. Surak was noble to the point of suicide, Lincoln was likable and doomed, Green was a backstabbing fiend, Khaless was a cruel master of vocal impersonations ("Help me, Spock!!"), Genghis Khan was a coward who runs aways, etc.
The episode was always edited oddly, the cutting back to the Excalabian for 1 second, even though the creature had morphed back into the landscape.
But of course the episode is a winner for that one Lincoln line "The charming..."
Apparently, the effort to bury the word worked.
Why no Hitler? Was Green worse than Hitler? And that Tiburon crazy woman?
Of course they were all who Spock and Kirk expected them to be. Surak was noble to the point of suicide, Lincoln was likable and doomed, Green was a backstabbing fiend, Khaless was a cruel master of vocal impersonations ("Help me, Spock!!"), Genghis Khan was a coward who runs aways, etc.
The episode was always edited oddly, the cutting back to the Excalabian for 1 second, even though the creature had morphed back into the landscape.
But of course the episode is a winner for that one Lincoln line "The charming..."
Apparently, the effort to bury the word worked.
True, but a "planet" with a surface area of 8000 square miles would only have a diameter of 50 miles -- I don't think something that small would qualify as a planet.
This may be grasping as straws, but when Spock mentioned the area of 1000 sq Kilometers (even smaller than miles) he may have been referring only to the "perfectly earth like" area and not the entire change across a wider swath of the planet's surface, which may have been necessary to insulate this Excalbian spectacle. Regardless, Okuda's crew wasn't necessarily to blame for this, since the original episode's effects showed a considerably large area on the planet's surface as "a small change occurring there captain." In their desire to keep to the spirit of the original effects work, this may be why it was done.
At any rate, this has always been one of my favorites despite the odd story and characters. The premise is totally sound when you consider it was simply a test of our hero's concepts. And I have always thought the Excalbians to be one of the coolest alien species Trek every envisioned. I've often wondered if they weren't related to the Sheliak from TNG.
At any rate, this has always been one of my favorites despite the odd story and characters. The premise is totally sound when you consider it was simply a test of our hero's concepts. And I have always thought the Excalbians to be one of the coolest alien species Trek every envisioned. I've often wondered if they weren't related to the Sheliak from TNG.
One of the odder moments of TOS dialogue occurs in this episode when Lincoln asks if they "still measure time in minutes", and Kirk replies that they can "convert to it if necessary". From what I recollect, they always measured shorter time durations in hours and minutes on the show. Even within this episode there are multiple references to time periods in minutes (other than Lincoln's 12 1/2 minutes reference itself). I mean what else would they be using? Centons? Just strange.
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
Roddenberry must've joined the metric mafia at that point.
(I just realized that made no sense. ha.)
(I just realized that made no sense. ha.)
The Federation runs on starminutes, which are about 110 seconds long.
This is why, whenever something is in a very tense countdown in an episode, it always seems like it takes twice as long to get to zero.
Joe, straw-grasper
No doubt something to do with the local quantum-flux spacetime density or something. Wait that's TNG.
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
So was Lincoln's lower lip fake...or what? Is it the Khan's "fake-chest" of TOS? They caked on the make-up on Abe there.
Also, it's worth noting that McCoy and Scotty were right that Spock and Kirk should not have beamed down.
And that Shatner was looking a bit pudgy.
Abe: "You remind of a general I knew."
Kirk: "Grant?"
Abe: "Yes, he had a beer belly, too."
Also, it's worth noting that McCoy and Scotty were right that Spock and Kirk should not have beamed down.
And that Shatner was looking a bit pudgy.
Abe: "You remind of a general I knew."
Kirk: "Grant?"
Abe: "Yes, he had a beer belly, too."
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