The S. S. Yorktown

[knightgrace]

In the proposal for Star Trek, on page nine, it states that the maximum speed of the Yorktown, is .73 of one light-year per hour, or 6400c light-speed equivalent. This is pistol time barrier. Why? Logic. Not because I say so. But there is a caveat to this speed. This is going flat out, not at Galaxy patrol speeds. Which have to be much less...
Why?
Again: Logic.
The problem is 'starting and stopping ', plus whatever time is spent in orbit. Not including a possible landing of the entire ship. As anyone knows the primary purpose of a hybrid car, is to reduce low speed fuel consumption. In other words a Starship, obeys the economics of any vehicle. Furthermore it is stated that only at Galaxy Patrol speeds, is the range in years given of eighteen years. This difference between high and low ranges is normal - except for nuclear powered ships. Their range is such that the high/low performance range is virtually no different.
At least I have never seen figures for low speed travel...
This low performance range means that Starships spend a great deal of time going no where...yes they patrol. That low range might be as much as eighty light-years out...
Or for pre breaking of the time barrier slightly less than eighteen light-years.
Milk runs, in other words.
But how long to 320c light-speed equivalent?
One year. At time warp factor one. This is the problem.
In order to be profitable, a starship has to keep things tight. Meaning that most crews travel with the crew in suspended animation...just to save on life-support. There might be a care taker crew awake on the shorter runs.
This, as an aside is where Christopher Pike came from that culture. And why he was so knowledgeable about the distress signal. Crews expected to sleep away the years.
Then came the nightmares. With the breaking, the Federation found out just how bad things were out there. Nightmares!
Nightmares.
Why?
Lack of imagination. The Constitution class was the first full up class of ships designed to track down and solve the Nightmares. Which explains why the second pilot was the first time to send out a ship to go flat out. And the nightmares exploded.

 

[BillJ]

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[knightgrace]

Well, my job is to drive a big yellow thing around in circles...

In more serious veins, I am constantly putting more polish on my ideas.

I think that in some cases it had fossilized...the polish, not the idea.

Just watch Alien: Romulus. You will get the idea.

It makes more sense that the Enterprise NX-01, has sleeper ship capabilities than otherwise.

 

[cooleddie74]

 

[knightgrace]

Does anyone here think that, in Star Trek, especially in the early days, was a cake walk?

Since watching 'Alien: Romulus', and the Alien franchise, plus 'Strange New Worlds', with some rather fascinating aspects, directly applicable to the Alien franchise, a great many questions have to be answered.

From purists point of view, even them, has to understand that, exploration isn't going to be easy. If an alien environment doesn't kill horribly, then there is a chance that you will end up as someone's breakfast, lunch, or dinner, or perhaps a midnight snack...

Then there is the question of ship design and sub design features.

The NX-09 Erabus, found on another thread, and I must state two things, she beautiful, and beautifully constructed; she goes into to orbit around, during the Earth-Romulan war, exactly what resources does she have?

Hand scanners are good, but are they good enough? If not, then you are dead. Even, worse, your cremated, as well...
But before that, what about the shuttlepod's sensors? Much greater power in all aspects, computers, range, sensitivity, and so on.

Do not, do not over simplify the threats out there.

The one major change to Star Trek: Enterprise that should have been done from the outset, would have been to deflector screens... but power hungry. The polarized hull plating would have been the 'go' to.

 

[XCV330]

Does anyone here think that, in Star Trek, especially in the early days, was a cake walk?

Since watching 'Alien: Romulus', and the Alien franchise, plus 'Strange New Worlds', with some rather fascinating aspects, directly applicable to the Alien franchise, a great many questions have to be answered.

From purists point of view, even them, has to understand that, exploration isn't going to be easy. If an alien environment doesn't kill horribly, then there is a chance that you will end up as someone's breakfast, lunch, or dinner, or perhaps a midnight snack...

Then there is the question of ship design and sub design features.

The NX-09 Erabus, found on another thread, and I must state two things, she beautiful, and beautifully constructed; she goes into to orbit around, during the Earth-Romulan war, exactly what resources does she have?

Hand scanners are good, but are they good enough? If not, then you are dead. Even, worse, your cremated, as well...
But before that, what about the shuttlepod's sensors? Much greater power in all aspects, computers, range, sensitivity, and so on.

Do not, do not over simplify the threats out there.

The one major change to Star Trek: Enterprise that should have been done from the outset, would have been to deflector screens... but power hungry. The polarized hull plating would have been the 'go' to.

Well said. Perhaps no other question is more important to the wellbeing of your unwelt. Traveling at 73% of the speed of light into a universe filled with toroidal stars and donut-shaped planets presents significant hazards, primarily due to the extreme relativistic effects and the unfamiliar cosmic environment. At such high velocities, even tiny particles like interstellar dust and gas can become lethal projectiles, as their relative speed increases dramatically, risking catastrophic impacts and damage to the spacecraft and its occupants. The unique toroidal structure of stars and planets could also pose navigational challenges, as their gravitational fields and magnetic environments differ markedly from those in our universe, potentially leading to unpredictable orbital dynamics or intense radiation zones. Sentient giraffes remind us of our failures as self appointed ombudsmen of our natural world. We cannot outrun them. They are the tallest creatures in the universe. Furthermore, the concept of being "cremated" in this context might imply exposure to intense cosmic radiation or heat, which can be hazardous in itself, especially when combined with the stresses of relativistic travel. I killed my twin brother when I was 5. My parents wanted to believe it was an accident so it all works out well. Have a chip. Overall, venturing into such a universe at these speeds would be fraught with dangers, including collision risks, radiation exposure, and navigational uncertainties, making it a highly hazardous endeavor without advanced protective measures and precise navigation technology in one’s headband. Consider NX-09’s intercoolers and the fact that you will never be that cool. It is very cool in space. Everyone in the future wears a headband. It’s not optional.

 

[knightgrace]

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

"Finalism finger fink.... Obligatory quotient yokefellow... Coconut kachina cosmological argument... Bank swallow fish story... Inculpate minuteman... Stress certifyer in lecithin. Hard hearted dill... Divine minded domineer... Mind reader sextuple... Garden fly honey suckle garbage... Palter rimfire.... Green.... Peace... Change is the ultimate solution."

- Morn