Maybe they started like Dahj and were programmed with an organic positronic/whatever matrix and gained the ability/learned they could reproduce sexually later?
Spoilers The Romulans and the Vulcans (spoilers for Ep2 onward).
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**shrug**
I mean, it's just terminology, but I just don't understand why under that case something would be a "synthetic life form" or a "bio-android." If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
Clones in the Trekverse have never been considered to be bio-androids, FWIW.
So...Spock IS 'Control' in the 23rd century (until he dies in STII:TWoK) and Burham and Co failed miserably...got it!
(No wonder Sarek and Spock never got along until after Spock's death and Resurrection in STIII:TSFS and Spock was reconstituted as fully biological - no wonder it took him a full film to get his mind back.)
The other possibility is that the Romulans or Vulcans of thousands of years ago were responsible for the Borg. I can't see the inclusion of the Borg not meaning anything to the larger story.
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I would love this. However I don't think the universe has the structural integrity to handle the schism in the fanbase this would cause.
DeliciousBut it would be right up there in popularity in the fandom with Spock having an adopted step-sister.
Can you imagine the rage that will ignite in some fan circles?
Typical star trek writing then.
I kinda like how they fleshed out the Romulans in the 2nd episode. The Romulan guard, briefing Borg reclamation site newbies, had a sense of humour. The Romulan scientist working on the Borg corpse also seemed interesting. It is good to see that. The Romulans housekeepers of Picard seem okay, even i still don't trust them 100 %. They are afterall ex-Tal Shar.
Overall the Romulans seem more fun to be around than the emotionally suppressed Vulcans.
Overall the Romulans seem more fun to be around than the emotionally suppressed Vulcans.
The fact that Jean-Luc is well aware of Laris & Zhaban being Tal Shiar and that they have been with him for 15 years, kinda kills any real reasons for them to be nefarious toward him.
Especially since "Maps & Legends" explicitly shows Laris using her Tal Shiar skills to actually help him.
I am sure that they are keeping a few secrets from Starfleet Intelligence and Picard.
They are EX-Tal Shiar.
Forced to go on the run because of falling in love with each other.
Jean-Luc took them in to save their lives from Tal Shiar retribution.
Laris whipped out her Tal Shiar spy-device and it seems, her vast knowledge of Romulan undercover techniques pretty quickly to assist Jean-Luc in his quest to find Dahj's sister.
That doesn't seem like something someone who is purposely hiding anything, would do.
Well she hid her Tal Shiar spy-device untill now. Who knows what else she is hiding.
Perhaps there was never any reason till now to actually use it?
That's not really hiding something, especially since Jean-Luc probably never asked her to reveal stuff like that.
That's why i think only a part of the romulan population are synths mixed with the real descendants of the people that left Vulcan during the exodus.
Basically a vulcan/romulan Blade Runner scenario, where almost no one beside the Zhat Vash might know or could even honestly suspect that his neighbor might be a synth...
That's what i think could be the greatest fear of the Zhat Vash, that this secret will be revealed and rips the romulan civilization into pieces...
I don't think a secret of "We made the Borg" would make a person go crazy. Meh. More like, make everyone else go crazy and murder you because you made the Borg.
I thought the conversation between the two operatives in s01e02 was a little unnecessary. I don't think they'd actually talk like that, with full disclosure for the viewing audience! I guess I like to be left in mystery a little longer.
And I think the Romulan society has already been ripped into pieces; they lost their star! That's bound to be worse than learning "ooh, we invented the Borg." Although hm, to a Romulan, who grew up on a culture that has never approved of AI, to learn that you invented the original AI to end all AI, maybe that would drive a Romulan crazy. But humans have done a lot of bad things, and I think we'd blink and get over it. And remember that Romulans have a central government for only Romulans, formerly on Romulus. They don't have a distributed Federation, so losing their star was incredibly bad for them. Unlike the Federation who would live on should Sol suddenly go super-nova.
I wonder why the Tal-Shiar destroyed Romulus's star?
I thought the conversation between the two operatives in s01e02 was a little unnecessary. I don't think they'd actually talk like that, with full disclosure for the viewing audience! I guess I like to be left in mystery a little longer.
And I think the Romulan society has already been ripped into pieces; they lost their star! That's bound to be worse than learning "ooh, we invented the Borg." Although hm, to a Romulan, who grew up on a culture that has never approved of AI, to learn that you invented the original AI to end all AI, maybe that would drive a Romulan crazy. But humans have done a lot of bad things, and I think we'd blink and get over it. And remember that Romulans have a central government for only Romulans, formerly on Romulus. They don't have a distributed Federation, so losing their star was incredibly bad for them. Unlike the Federation who would live on should Sol suddenly go super-nova.
I wonder why the Tal-Shiar destroyed Romulus's star?
We don't know they did that
So, I thought this was a silly theory, but after the most recent episode, I think there's something there. At the very least, some Romulans are probably synthetic to some degree.
The crucial foreshadowing comes out around the scene Soji has with the Tarot-reading Romulan woman. We discover these are the only Romulans ever assimilated. We know this cube went offline pretty soon after assimilating them. And we know that unlike normal ex-drones - who are fine once they are disconnected - the Romulans ended up insane.
This seems to suggest, at minimum, that Romulans have some sort of biological malware installed in their heads.
The crucial foreshadowing comes out around the scene Soji has with the Tarot-reading Romulan woman. We discover these are the only Romulans ever assimilated. We know this cube went offline pretty soon after assimilating them. And we know that unlike normal ex-drones - who are fine once they are disconnected - the Romulans ended up insane.
This seems to suggest, at minimum, that Romulans have some sort of biological malware installed in their heads.
