Not immediately though -- you'd have time to continue to evacuate
The Romulan Supernova: The final, canon word
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Not immediately though -- you'd have time to continue to evacuate
But Star Trek has never been 'Hard' science fiction of that type. It's always been more of a "Space Fantasy" with some grounding in actual science IF the story being told at the moment isn't affected.
Since other planets would be in danger Spock's actions make sense.
A supernova is an event. It continues to expand. Yes, it had begun, but he may have been trying to find some way to stop it and reverse it with whatever the heck "red matter" was
The whole supernova thing from 2009 was one of the stupidest, most nonsensical things Star Trek has ever done.
And that's saying a lot.
That said, it gets a pass from me because 2009 is a wildly entertaining movie and, 11 years later, the idea of the supernova pretty much "just is," so I don't care and I won't ding PIC for using it as a key plot point.
But make no mistake....it was a hokey idea from the get-go.
And that's saying a lot.
That said, it gets a pass from me because 2009 is a wildly entertaining movie and, 11 years later, the idea of the supernova pretty much "just is," so I don't care and I won't ding PIC for using it as a key plot point.
But make no mistake....it was a hokey idea from the get-go.
OR he was trying to stop whatever effect (started by the one Supernova) that unchecked would cause OTHER Supernovas in other Stars including the Star of the Romulan Homeworld. he failed, and yes, as a result the Star on the Romulan Homeworld's system went Supernova too as a result.
Who cares? A natural disaster happened and an entire culture was displaced. That's all anyone has to get from it.
Yes but this is TrekBBS. We are supposed to dissect it to death. That’s the fun.
Absolutely. They could have known for decades this was coming, and spent years dispersing the bulk of their population to other systems.
It's a shame there isn't a convenient, decades-long period of Romulan isolationism that could possibly account for this...
Romulus may only be left with hundreds of millions rather than billions of people, but it still wouldn't be an easy task.
Can't agree with this.
Romulus could have been researching their own attempt at a genesis device and had it go awry. Why hasn't anyone else tried to replicate Genesis since then? Have to assume at least a few tried, even if only as a weapons program, and found various reasons that it was better left alone.
When's the fun happening again?
The side canon was that it was the Hobus star went nova. It was so massive that it breached subspace and traveled through that. Hence why it was able to reach Romulus in a shorter time. It was also said to be a threat to the whole galaxy.
I’m having fun discussing it. Some people do get very defensive which I don’t understand.
And that was never canon and has now been explicitly overruled by Picard, so we can thankfully forget all that nonsense.
I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch, as the backstory still has the nova effecting planets outside of the Romulus system.
It just didn't make sense to me. I'm no astrophysicist, but the idea of another star in the galaxy going supernova and being an immediate threat to destroy a nearby starsystem is ridiculous, which is how it is portrayed. The idea that the supernova could threaten all life in the galaxy is also crazy.
Now, is it as crazy as lamp entities having love with Dr. Crusher or Warp 10 salamanders? Perhaps....perhaps not. But it's definitely wonky.
Now...again....to be clear- I don't care. Star Trek is my favorite franchise, and as such, I am tolerant of a lot of stupid stuff that makes no sense. The use of the supernova doesn't detract from my enjoyment at all. But I do roll my eyes at it.
Planet-killing weapons are a dime a dozen.
One area of interest, that you touched on, is types of star. For it to be a full, powerful, type II supernova, the star's initial mass would have to be nine times that of the sun, or higher, and the resulting star would have been pumping out staggering levels of radiation and energy for its entire life. Such a star would destroy itself before any planets could properly form, let alone develop into life-supporting worlds. It either wasn't a supernova in the conventional sense, or it wasn't Romulus' star.
