Spoilers The Roddenberry Archive brings every iteration of Star Trek’s USS Enterprise bridge to life
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"I've been dead before."
-- Spock
-- Spock
Look I used to beat the Bring Back Kirk drum for years and years, on the old Trek boards including Shatner.com. I figured, even if it was a brief "trailer" for his actual return, that would have been neat. Idk what in the world what they actually did was supposed to be, I really don't. Wasted potential.
Yes, but we also saw the Project Lazarus and Kirk's body in storage. So, he could have been restored to life, possibly by Mitchell, and then Yor assists him to travel to the Kelvin timeline to see Spock once more.
So, while post Kirk's death, doesn't mean he is dead or that his is an afterlife scenario.
"and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon." No such thought went into this project, it's a tech demo intermixed with old Trek actors.
Hardly.
The interviews with, and the participation in this very thread of Jules Urbach, prove how so very wrong you are. This short is filled over the top with deep cut continuity references that can lend themselves to any number of interpretations, which was the intent of the short. I believe that was the whole point of the inclusion of the quote "there are always possibilities". A lot of people have taken it to be an afterlife situation. That's fine. That's not my interpretation, but it's legit one. On the other hand, I do believe that Belanna visited the Klingon afterlife in "Barge of the Dead". Spock has canonically died. Scotty has canonically died. Picard has canonically died. Shax has canonically died. Yet all of their stories continued. Am I forgetting anyone?
And, yes, at the end of the day it may be a tech demo, but it was one that was well thought out and clearly a labor of love for the franchise from all involved.
And, yes, at the end of the day it may be a tech demo, but it was one that was well thought out and clearly a labor of love for the franchise from all involved.
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It was a labor of love. Thank you.
No, Thank you.
We thank you for the hard work.
Wow. Another series of posts obsessed with being objectively wrong.
I’m detecting a trend.
One small recommendation: If you want folks to take you seriously, don’t use a Pakled for an avatar. A Kazon would be an order of magnitude more respectable, and that’s pretty bad too.
A lot of thought went into it. Read the interviews and articles and all that
Don’t confuse the issue with facts. 
Life is a dream.
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As touching as I think the OTOY film is, I still think Spock's fate sucks even worse than Kirk's. He tried to save Romulus and didn't. (I guess the loss of Romulus in the Prime timeline necessitates the loss of Vulcan in the Kelvin?). Then he brings Nero and the Narada through the wormhole to destroy the Kelvin and kill Kirk's father, then later destroy Vulcan. He's stuck then in the Kelvin universe where he dies alone under a different name, probably dying earlier than he would have in the Prime timeline because he's in the wrong universe/timeline. This film lets him die with a Kirk by his side (maybe).
It just doesn't sit right with me and never will the fate of these two friends and heroes.
And what kind of a world is New Vulcan that lets an old man die alone? Did the Vulcans on New Vulcan blame him so much that they wouldn't be with him at the end?
I would much prefer that Spock, genius that he is, would have found a way back to his own timeline to at least help the transition of what Romulans are left.
Mostly, I think all the stories about the TOS characters screwed up after STIV.
It just doesn't sit right with me and never will the fate of these two friends and heroes.
And what kind of a world is New Vulcan that lets an old man die alone? Did the Vulcans on New Vulcan blame him so much that they wouldn't be with him at the end?
I would much prefer that Spock, genius that he is, would have found a way back to his own timeline to at least help the transition of what Romulans are left.
Mostly, I think all the stories about the TOS characters screwed up after STIV.
Most of what you cited that were perceived problems with Spock’s fate happened long before this short video was ever conceived. I get your point about nobody else being around, however maybe they already said their goodbyes before this moment and Kirk was the final visit. We really don’t know.
I think you may be putting a little too much blame on this vid that really had nothing to do with any of what you cited, that was almost all Abramsverse writing. This effort is just simply wrapping up loose ends and untold story lines of two of the most iconic characters in science fiction history that, IMO, deserved a lot more to their endings than what we got on film. This fixes a lot of that.
I think you may be putting a little too much blame on this vid that really had nothing to do with any of what you cited, that was almost all Abramsverse writing. This effort is just simply wrapping up loose ends and untold story lines of two of the most iconic characters in science fiction history that, IMO, deserved a lot more to their endings than what we got on film. This fixes a lot of that.
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I reject that notion, generally speaking. Spock lived for only five years in the Kelvin timeline. Nero and co. hung around twenty-five years and were just fine.
"Spock was so old though..." Yeah, whatever.
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