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Right -- so we can all agree that police easily could have existed during the TOS era.

And after. Remember, the we're seeing the world almost exclusively from the perspective of senior military officers. We don't know that much about the lives of JOs and Enlisted men, let alone the civilians.

It seems that although there are many examples of alien police forces on Trek their function on Federation ships, facilities is always carried out by Starfleet Security personnel.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Police

You wouldn't see civilian LEOs on military facilities unless there's an Starfleet version of NCIS. Starfleet Security seems to be a merging of the MA and GM rates.
 
That might be quite welcome. Which is why it's a pity, really, that there's no telltale badge on this cop, at least none visible in the trailer.

Timo Saloniemi
We do see a badge, actually, but only from a distance. It's impossible to make out any detail besides the general shape (which looks like a standard police-badge shield and not a Starfleet delta.)

Edit: Looking at the high-res caps made by JoeRalat and posted in this thread (great big images!) it is possible to do a little better than with the attachment below:

http://www.joseralat.com/uploads/screen-capture-51.jpg

It's still far from conclusive, though.
 

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We're assuming that there's not a third choice - he's not a robot or a human, he's an alien who needs the equipment to breathe.

Remember these guys ?
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Their voices sounded modulated too. Why does everyone living on a Federation planet need to be a native ?

The above image is hosted on my own personal Google Pages webspace and is not a hotlink.

Its Leia!
 
That might be quite welcome. Which is why it's a pity, really, that there's no telltale badge on this cop, at least none visible in the trailer.

Timo Saloniemi
We do see a badge, actually, but only from a distance. It's impossible to make out any detail besides the general shape (which looks like a standard police-badge shield and not a Starfleet delta.)

Edit: Looking at the high-res caps made by JoeRalat and posted in this thread (great big images!) it is possible to do a little better than with the attachment below:

http://www.joseralat.com/uploads/screen-capture-51.jpg

It's still far from conclusive, though.

Also of note about him, at high mag; upper silverish armbands could be shield shaped reproductions of the chest badge, possible keypad on back-side of right hand. A phaser looking object attached to his right knee.


I think it's a person.
 
I don't know what's sadder. The fact that this thread was started in the first place, the fact that I scrolled through all the postings, or the fact that I'm posting in it as well.




Help.
 
All other indications are that crime has been eliminated in Trek's time. On Earth, at least.

Well, TOS indicated that criminals were considered mentally ill and put into asylums, with good results (until Dr. Adams overdid it a bit in "Dagger of the Mind"), and with only one asylum's worth of incurables in the entire Federation (Elba II in "Whom Gods Destroy"). There were no other known civilian punishments such as fines or prison sentences in evidence. But certainly one would need law enforcers in order to catch the villains and to force them to undergo the therapy.

TNG "Justice" suggested that people were screened against criminal tendencies in their youth, while the 24th century spinoffs generally maintained that the consequence for all criminal behavior was forced therapy, usually six months of it (supposedly involving closed environs such as penal colonies). And such therapy seemed to be a success, or at least there were no known repeat offenders. Hey, even Harry Mudd had never exactly repeated a previous offense! Again, no mention of fines or jail sentences in modern Trek, but once more there would be a definite need for a police force.

Starfleet maintained traditional courts of law for its internal affairs, and at various points of its history also upheld the death penalty. Whether there existed civilian courts is unknown. It would be a bit odd if a court of law was called to judge on what was accepted as a medical case - but a court of law might be a filter that would examine a case and decide whether it involved a crime (that is, a mental illness, in which case the accused/patient would immediately be shipped off to his or her standard six months of therapy) or a mere dispute (something the court had the authority to handle).

Edit: Oh, and thanks for pointing out that the badge can be seen. Curiously enough, the symbol on it looks very much like a big letter A - or, in other words, the Starfleet delta...

Timo Saloniemi
 
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All other indications are that crime has been eliminated in Trek's time. On Earth, at least.
Well, TOS indicated...
[snip]
One other example from TOS occurs to me:
(The face of an unhappy barman peers out from a pile of tribbles.)
JONES: Well, Captain, I suppose I'm free to go now.
KIRK: No, you're not. There's something I want to show you. You know what the penalty is for transporting an animal proven harmful to human life?
JONES: Captain, one little tribble isn't harmful. Captain, you wouldn't do a thing like that to me, now would you? Would you?
SPOCK: The penalty is twenty years in a rehabilitation colony.
JONES: Captain Kirk. Friend. Friend Kirk. Surely we can come to some sort of mutual understanding. After all, my tribbles did put you wise to the poisoned grain, and they did help you to find the Klingon agent. You saved a lot of lives that way.
KIRK: There is one thing you can do.
JONES: Yes?
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/42.htm

The method of rehabilitation is not specified, but it is still considered a penalty.

Edit: Oh, and thanks for pointing out that the badge can be seen. Curiously enough, the symbol on it looks very much like a big letter A - or, in other words, the Starfleet delta...
Yeah, I didn't realize it until I went back to the high-res image and looked at it closely, but it does indeed look like a flattened Starfleet delta. Not sure about the sleeve markings mentioned above, but those could easily be another flattened delta or chevron insignia of the sort which would become easily recognizable at a distance as belonging to a public servant or government employee.
 
Entering into the scene is a charactor in diguise to hide his identity. It is Spock.

There, I said it!
 
My 2 cents...

The final clue what organization the cop belongs to is not the guy himself but the hover-bike. There is the word POLICE written on it. Just sayin... ;-)

As to whether he's a robot, cyborg or just a guy in a suit, I tend toward the third option.
The mask is obviously protective gear. I found the argument that it helps him breath at really high velocity a really good one.
I also believe he's got some kind of HUD inside, probably infrared-vision device or something similar. Sensors for visual and audio enhancement and also a voice enhancement so he can be very loud without actually screaming. At least that's my idea for the synthesized voice.

Edit: I just realized the word POLICE is also on the mask!
 
My 2 cents...

The final clue what organization the cop belongs to is not the guy himself but the hover-bike. There is the word POLICE written on it. Just sayin... ;-)

As to whether he's a robot, cyborg or just a guy in a suit, I tend toward the third option.
The mask is obviously protective gear. I found the argument that it helps him breath at really high velocity a really good one.
I also believe he's got some kind of HUD inside, probably infrared-vision device or something similar. Sensors for visual and audio enhancement and also a voice enhancement so he can be very loud without actually screaming. At least that's my idea for the synthesized voice.

Edit: I just realized the word POLICE is also on the mask!

Its just an amplifier or something. Its a living being.

RAMA
 
Why would it be more efficient to recruit Earth Humans couldn't Aliens who grew up on Earth do the same job? Isn't Star Trek more inclusive than that? Wouldn't that be segrigation?
There you go, towing the bullshitism that is extra-sensitive PC crap. If an alien has poisonous reactions to Earth's atmosphere and needs highly sensitive specialized apparatus to even breath normally, wouldn't it be more, oh I don't know, efficient in trying to live in his homeworld? And why would he apply for a job like security or police work where things might get dangerous or out of hand? Should the military now spend money on developing deadly wheelchairs for combat for the wheelchair-bound to include them in the armed forces? Is that segregation as well? :rolleyes:

To add more, the purpose of this thread exactly proves why J J Abrams should not have taken such a huge responsibility in giving us Trek fans such a big, exciting gift. Trek fans are fucking stupid, though I am not saying the OP is stupid in starting this topic. But reading the responses in it - OH MY GOD! Are you guys really that removed from reality that you can't even logically deduce the fact that:

- the policeman is wearing clothes. why would a specific law-enforcement police droid need to do so?

- why would he sway like a human being when walking off from his hoverbike?

- why was the visor being lifted as he is walking, if he is a robot? what would a robot need with a visor?

I seriously will never understand some of you guys' observational capabilities. :rolleyes:
 
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Has anyone considered the possibility that behind that robo-cop suit lies...... tribbles?

I think we need more footage to make a determination.
 
- the policeman is wearing clothes. why would a specific law-enforcement police droid need to do so?
To be more anthropomorphic?

- why would he sway like a human being when walking off from his hoverbike?
Because he's played by a human actor?

- why was the visor being lifted as he is walking, if he is a robot? what would a robot need with a visor?
To protect delicate sensor clusters?

I seriously will never understand some of you guys' observational capabilities. :rolleyes:

Oh get over yourself.
 
I'll have to find someone in real life who is convinced that the Police officer in question is a robot/android or cyborg. I'd be willing to bet a significant amount of my Christmas shopping money against that :lol:
 
I ride motorcycle myself and with a redicilous suit and the even more stupid helmet I would hit the first best thing because I can't see a thing because of that stupid faceplate and then get hurt because there's no protection positioned anywhere logical, as for breathing problems at high speed, yeah whatever, try a TurboBusa they do 250Mph + and the people riding those have a normal helmet so that way I have to conclude that it has to be a COP-3-PIO like I said before, probably added because Abrams had a brain fart and confused Star Trek with Starwars. :p
 
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