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News The Rian Johnson trilogy is (not) hapenning

So far as I'm aware, the only prequel novelization Lucas had a direct hand in was TPM's, so I wouldn't base any ideas about the deep lore on what's in the others. Individual authors all had their own interpretations of such things, most of which not in line with what Lucas was thinking.
 
I think the author of the ROTS novelization once suggested that Lucas had vetoed certain lines in the original manuscript.
 
I take it better than most other EU works.

Perhaps a distinction without a difference but I prefer the film novels over EU novels. The Phantom Menace book is amazing. Better than the movie. Attack of the Clones is ok. ROTS novel compliments the film very well.
 
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Links are nice. Citations are nicer. Screenshots are okay if they have some context to them. I presume it’s this article?

On a site no one’s ever hear of? Where the “news” starts “According to our sources…”?

Yeah, I’m not sure the Johnson trilogy will actually happen. But this site doesn’t know anything.
 
I take it better than most other EU works.

Perhaps a distinction without a difference but I prefer the film novels over EU novels. The Phantom Menace book is amazing. Better than the movie. Attack of the Clones is ok. ROTS novel compliments the film very well.
I know a lot of fans rate the RotS book highly, but it never did much for me. Straight out of the gate I wasn't a fan of the idea that Anakin & Obi-Wan were galaxy renowned celebrities. There's a couple reasons for that (not least of which the implications for the OT) but mostly one would expect Palpatine to be mostly in control of the press by this point, and would have a vested interest in keeping the Jedi mostly faceless in the public eye (something TCW seemed to agree with), and that sticking around for photo opportunities and interviews doesn't feel like a very Jedi thing to do.
That and the way it went about metaphorizing Anakin's internal struggle as a case of multiple-personalities just didn't sit right with me. It almost made it too easy, bordering on a copout. I felt it shied away from having to really confront the idea that Anakin had already become a deeply selfish person, and instead almost painted him like a helpless victim of "the dragon" or whatever they called it.

But what do I know; I actively disliked the Plagueis novel, and most people that have read that seem to rave about it.

And yes, the TPM novel is far and away the best novelization of all the movies to date (Rogue One's being a close second.)
 
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I know a lot of fans rate the RotS book highly, but it never did much for me. Straight out of the gate I wasn't a fan of the idea that Anakin & Obi-Wan were galaxy renowned celebrities. There's a couple reasons for that (not least of which the implications for the OT) but mostly one would expect Palpatine to be mostly in control of the press by this point, and would have a vested interest in keeping the Jedi mostly faceless in the public eye (something TCW seemed to agree with), and that sticking around for photo opportunities and interviews does feel like a very Jedi thing to do.
The Jedi, yes, but Anakin as the "Hero without Fear" actually tracks with Palpatine's machination to move to the Empire.
 
The Jedi, yes, but Anakin as the "Hero without Fear" actually tracks with Palpatine's machination to move to the Empire.
I disagree. Leaving aside it being inaccurate (Anakin's was very much afraid, all the time) it's a catchy slogan, but little else, and it doesn't really fit the scenario. The Empire doesn't really glorify any individuals other than the Emperor. It's soldiers are faceless for a reason. The whole point is to supress individualism, and with it, free thought. Giving the masses a folk hero is counterproductive to that aim.

Moreover, the plan was obviously always to make Darth Vader his personal enforcer; so it would have been pretty stupid for Palpatine to make his face a widely recognised one given what was coming. It just so happened Anakin having his face burned off and encased in a mask made that a moot point, but Palps didn't know that was going to happen. Indeed it was a significant setback.

What makes more sense is that he kept the Jedi largely out of the propaganda, focusing instead on the clones as the face of Emp--err--Republic's military might. The Jedi only ever referred to collectively, not really singling anyone out (an arrangement the High Council would have no doubt welcomed.) It's important to fix the idea of the Jedi being a distant, aloof order of religious warmongers in the minds of the populous, even when the propaganda is superficially praising their deeds. It helps that Palpatine would occasionally put out a statement defending the Jedi, because it keeps the idea that there's growing popular opposition to them in the public mind too. Indeed, I wouldn't' be surprised if there really wasn't any significant opposition to them leading the war to begin with, and he was deliberately cultivated a Streisand Effect.
 
I disagree. Leaving aside it being inaccurate (Anakin's was very much afraid, all the time) it's a catchy slogan, but little else, and it doesn't really fit the scenario. The Empire doesn't really glorify any individuals other than the Emperor. It's soldiers are faceless for a reason. The whole point is to supress individualism, and with it, free thought. Giving the masses a folk hero is counterproductive to that aim.
If the hero throws behind the new Empire it will smooth the transition.

I can see Palpatine using it effectively if needed. But, then change it as needed.
 
Obi-wan as "The Negotiator" somewhat tracks as well. I can imagine he would get a bit of publicity from his time on Mandalor. Or by association with Anakin.

I imagine Palpatine's play was to put up these two Jedi as the faces of the Republic. Than have Dooku kill Obi-wan, as a tragic loss of a Hero of the Republic, maybe even spin it as part of the betrayal of the Jedi. Leave Anakin as the face of the new Empire. But not all plans go correctly.
 
If the hero throws behind the new Empire it will smooth the transition.

I can see Palpatine using it effectively if needed. But, then change it as needed.
It'd only confuse the transition. "The remaining Jedi will be hunted down and defeated . . . except that one there. He's totally cool. Not even a little bit treasonous, unlike all the other nighty nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine! Also if you don't do as he says, he'll mind choke you to death."
See also: keeping the Inquisitorious on the down-low. Having former Jedi running around kidnapping children and murdering families at the behest of the Emperor rather contradicts the narrative, no?

Obi-wan as "The Negotiator" somewhat tracks as well. I can imagine he would get a bit of publicity from his time on Mandalor. Or by association with Anakin.
I'd hardly call that a public image, so much as a jibe from Grevious. And of course he's heard of Obi-Wan, given that they'd already fought about a dozen times prior!
 
It'd only confuse the transition. "The remaining Jedi will be hunted down and defeated . . . except that one there. He's totally cool. Not even a little bit treasonous, unlike all the other nighty nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine! Also if you don't do as he says, he'll mind choke you to death."
He could do it, as he planned with Dooku.
 
It'd only confuse the transition. "The remaining Jedi will be hunted down and defeated . . . except that one there. He's totally cool. Not even a little bit treasonous, unlike all the other nighty nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine!
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"That one" being totally cool and loyal to "The Republic" leading the clones to deal with those "traitorous" Jedi who "attacked" the Chancellor and are clearly trying to take over the Republic.
We'll install a new Empire tomorrow to may sure this sort of thing "never" happens again.
 
"That one" being totally cool and loyal to "The Republic" leading the clones to deal with those "traitorous" Jedi who "attacked" the Chancellor and are clearly trying to take over the Republic.
We'll install a new Empire tomorrow to may sure this sort of thing "never" happens again.
Exactly. Palpatine can spin this any direction he wants. He is the master manipulator and more than that relies on the state of emergency to ensure his power can spread. Anakin has a "Hero without Fear" lends legitimacy to his new Empire, that a hero of the Republic recognized the traitorous ways of the Jedi and turned on them to protect a threat against the Chancellor.

As many have noted over several threads the Jedi are not well known to the general Republic populous. But, of they know of one, and he is the one who exposes the Jedi as duplicitous and traitorous to the Chancellor and the Senate, they will have a new hero to rally around, in addition to the Empire.

Not saying it's perfect but Palpatine flexes his plans in accordance to his need and the best way to manipulate the populace as he destroys the Jedi. Expose a Jedi conspiracy, Anakin saves him, secures the Republic against the Jedi plot, and the Empire is formed to protect the security of the people.
 
But not every plan goes well. Obi-wan lived and went into hiding. Anakin was burned and delimbed. So Anakin Skywalker "died". It is unclear what records the Empire gave for him (hero of the Republic, valiantly defending the Chancellor from the Jedi, or if he just died in the Temple...traitor or no.), but Darth Vader doesn't seem well know publicly, yet people on Tatooine knew what an Inquisitor was when asked just ten years into the Empire.
 
But not every plan goes well. Obi-wan lived and went into hiding. Anakin was burned and delimbed. So Anakin Skywalker "died". It is unclear what records the Empire gave for him (hero of the Republic, valiantly defending the Chancellor from the Jedi, or if he just died in the Temple...traitor or no.), but Darth Vader doesn't seem well know publicly, yet people on Tatooine knew what an Inquisitor was when asked just ten years into the Empire.
Palpatine flexes. If Anakin dies a hero in the public eye it lends credence. The attack by the Jedi would create an opportunity for the formation of the Inqusitors, to prevent the Jedi threat from rising again.
 
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