The Return of THE Law and Order

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  1. Timby

    Timby HAVE YOU HEARD THE WORDS OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR Administrator

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    This season has felt more "ripped from the headlines" than any Vanilla season I can recall. Off the top of my head, we started with a Bill Cosby episode, then Theranos, then Gabby Petito, then Britney Spears, then Ethan Crumbley, and this past week we had the Sackler family.
     
  2. Timby

    Timby HAVE YOU HEARD THE WORDS OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR Administrator

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    Um, I'm not sure we're going to see Anthony Anderson back on the show for season 22. He has multiple sexual assault allegations against him, and this was his response on a radio show:

    Yikes.
     
  3. Aragorn

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    Weren't Anderson and Waterston only signed for this season?
     
  4. Timby

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    Correct, while the rest of the principal cast signed multi-year deals, Waterston and Anderson only signed one-year contracts.
     
  5. Danny99

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    I know Waterston is 81, but he literally has two scenes in each episode, one where he is seated and maybe a walking in a corridor scene and neither is super long. He's not pulling those big courtroom scenes like he used to.

    If the allegations against Anderson are true, that would be extremely disappointing. He has earned my respect in his portrayal of Bernard, especially in this season as the calm, cool, but still extremely cognizant of the way of the world works. The detective is also completely different from the comedian I watch him as on "To Tell The Truth."
     
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  6. Aragorn

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    They sure promoted the hell out of Benson for her 2 minutes of screen time.
     
  7. Random_Spock

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    Yes they did. It was to try to boost the ratings.

    Last night's ep was just bad. The directing was ok, but the writing was horrible.
     
  8. Admiral2

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    Submitted just for fun:
     
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  9. auntiehill

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    My dad was a lawyer, so watching any cop show with him was a lot like this for me. :lol:
     
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  10. Danny99

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    The last couple episodes of Organized Crime were a marked improvement over the Albanians/Wheatley plots. The Bell "wife leaving her" storyline seems really forced though. Does anyone actually side with her wife here?
     
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  11. Admiral2

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    Not I.

    Honestly, I'm sick of the entire trope of the spouse always complaining about the other spouse's career because they're not getting enough attention or whatever. Couples in real life talk about things like that and find ways to work through them. Hollywood has never been capable of depicting that. Not dramatic enough, so instead it's just an endless parade of 'What about MY needs??' (packs bag, door slams).

    When Bell told Mrs. Bell 'I'm investigating your future boss,' you'd think she would have hesitated just a bit before taking the job, but nope, she was just 'What about MY needs?' and was there just in time to see her boss arrested. All I would say to her is 'What did you expect?'
     
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  12. Danny99

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    I literally yelled that at that screen. I can understand if the congressman is seen as this hero to the community or something like that, but that is me extrapolating. It just seems like Mrs. Bell decided to up and leave to give the Sergeant some turmoil.

    I think Ron Cephas Jones was on screen for maybe thirty minutes total all season. They set Mykelti Williamson up as the big bad and then kill him off screen. And the Brotherhood stuff wrapped up pretty quick, likely because NBC wouldn't give them the budget to keep Leary, Beals & Williamson around for an extended storyline past this season.

    Stabler is a guy that is always on the edge and frankly, I was entertained when he was undercover. He's conflicted and that can be done well too, as long as we can stop the will they, won't they with Benson. Another moment in SVU that had me yelling at the screen was the psychiatrist boiling Benson's problems down to Stabler.
     
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  13. Mr. Laser Beam

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    You mean you didn't get the memo? L&O doesn't allow characters to have happy family lives. :lol:

    At least not with fathers, it doesn't. Fathers always get screwed in the L&O 'verse. I think Stabler is one of the few we've ever seen who is actually a good dad!

    (actually, Cosgrove also has kids and he seems to be actively involved in their lives. So he may be a good father as well. The tide may be turning...)
     
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  14. Admiral2

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    You're absolutely right on both counts. From the very first episode of this arc both the congressman and Williamson were positioned as "pillars of the community" with hidden agendas. And yeah, Bell needed some more turmoil, because being a Black Lesbian Cop in a Blue city isn't stressful enough, apparently...
    The entire finale felt rushed like that, which is a shame. They are all much more deserving of another season than Dylan McDermott.
    That killed me too. It's the first time I've actually bothered to watch SVU all season and half of it is about Benson's love life. NBC, I don't give a shit who Benson screws, any more than give about the latest victim she's white knighting for.
     
  15. Aragorn

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    Anthony Anderson confirmed not to be returning. Chris Noth is available. :nyah:

    No news on Sam Waterston.
     
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  16. Timby

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    I think the big issue with Organized Crime is that these writers don't have an extensive amount of experience writing for a heavily serialized series, and it shows. The idea to break this season up into "pods" was really poorly thought-out, I felt.

    Also, not surprised about Anderson; he made it clear from Day One that he was signing on for the first season only. Dude really prefers living and working in California.
     
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  17. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Just watched the ep about opioid addiction.

    There's no way on God's green earth that Price should have been allowed to keep prosecuting that case. How the HELL did the judge let that go? :confused:

    Price's own brother was an addict and died of an overdose.

    In what parallel universe does this make it possible for Price to be objective and fair? A more obvious conflict of interest I can hardly think of.

    Just let Maroun take over. How hard could that have been?
     
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  18. Aragorn

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    Sam Waterston is returning next season.

    They could film his scenes for all 22 episodes in a day if only such a thing were possible for a full-season show.
     
  19. Starbreaker

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    Sam likes working. That's the key to living to be 100.
     
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  20. Timby

    Timby HAVE YOU HEARD THE WORDS OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR Administrator

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    I imagine he was just taking his time trying to decide whether he wanted to put up with a New York winter at age 82.