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The prequel trilogy constructive criticism thread

I love AOTC. Well, most of it. Anakin/Padme doesn't work and the CGI is way too cartoon-y. But seeing it at the time was so exciting, it felt the movie I'd wanted in TPM but didn't quite get. Adult Anakin. Coruscant speeder chase. Obi Wan vs Jango Fett. The massive Battle of Geonosis. Hundreds of Jedi fighting. Yoda vs Dooku. That was all amazing.
This is one of the reasons its my favorite PT movie.
The way Lucas handles the force in the original trilogy is completely different from the way he handles it in the pretrilogy. In the original trilogy, there is something mystical about the force. The Jedi are like Samurai and Shaolin monks and the force is like transcendentalism and buddhism and spoon bending. In the pretrilogy, its just magic.
It's not as inconsistent as it appears on the face of it. It's imply knowledge that we didn't have before, which, in some ways, does make sense, since the Jedi would have access to resources and knowledge that Obi-Wan probably didn't have time to impart to Luke.

Midi-clorians are also just a quick way to quantify Anakin's power, rather than showing it to us.
Oh look, this thread is still going. :p

Within the context of the Star Wars galaxy, "The Force" is something real. For example, when Yoda made Luke's X-Wing float through the air in ESB, it was actually happening, and it was a bigger deal than some spoon-bending illusion. Lightning shooting from the Emperor's fingers was also actually happening by means of "The Force," and not some fakery.


Kor
I like this thread. It's exciting

As opposed to the aliens, faster than light travel, laser swords and weapons that can vaporise planets, which are all totally real and not at all make-believe?
Wait, they aren't? :(
 
In my opinion Hayden Christensen did a good job with the lack of direction he had.
His performance in scenes like, The tusken slaughter and his confession with Padme, or the first act of ROTS were great.
If you want to see him act great watch the movie Shattered glass.
 
Agreed. Equally, we know Natalie Portman can act so that fact that she's sometimes quite poor in the Prequels suggests she wasn't necessarily the problem.
 
Agreed. Equally, we know Natalie Portman can act so that fact that she's sometimes quite poor in the Prequels suggests she wasn't necessarily the problem.

Yeah, George has a pretty bad reputation for not being much of an "actor's director" but more of a visual director. Lots of Star Wars actors from the OT and PT have criticized how he worked with them, or rather wouldn't really work with them too much.
 
Make Bail Organa, the man with the moral courage to stand up for what he believed in and who took someone else' child into his home, a central hero. I mean in all three movies. What we got was okay but it was weird how he kind of just popped up at the end.
 
Is there a similar thread for the original trilogy or "The Force Awakens"? If not, what is the point of this thread? More prequel bashing? I find that irrelevant, considering that all seven current movies can be easily criticized for something or the other.
 
Make Bail Organa, the man with the moral courage to stand up for what he believed in and who took someone else' child into his home, a central hero. I mean in all three movies. What we got was okay but it was weird how he kind of just popped up at the end.
I would prefer this. I was actually rather surprised by his general lack of presence in the films. I mean, it's known that Padme's entire subplot was cut out of ROTS, but I would have at least enjoyed a little bit more about Bail. Something that makes the loss of Alderaan more impactful.

I really liked Bail and Captain Antilles and would have enjoyed seeing more of them.
 
Oh my God! I can't believe this. Bail Organa as the main character of the Prequel movies. This doesn't even make sense to me. I can't believe that this is the kind of criticism I have been encountering about the Prequel Trilogy for . . . what? Seventeen years? Seventeen years of this? No wonder Lucas turned over the franchise to Disney.


More stupid dialog to excise: "This is so wizard, Ani!" :rolleyes:

Considering the amount of stupid dialogue I have encountered in the OT and in TFA, I'm surprised that you would complain about this.
 
"General Kenobi, years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars."
And then in the PT we see absolutely nothing of this. :wtf:

Is there a similar thread for the original trilogy or "The Force Awakens"? If not, what is the point of this thread? More prequel bashing? I find that irrelevant, considering that all seven current movies can be easily criticized for something or the other.

No, this is a constructive critique.

Kor
 
We do see a little of Obi-wan serving Bail Organa in The Clone Wars. It doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen a few times. It seems the Battle of Christophsis was to aid Bail Organa with a relief effort that turned into a back and forth battle and blockade.
 
Oh my God! I can't believe this. Bail Organa as the main character of the Prequel movies. This doesn't even make sense to me. I can't believe that this is the kind of criticism I have been encountering about the Prequel Trilogy for . . . what? Seventeen years? Seventeen years of this? No wonder Lucas turned over the franchise to Disney.

For realisies? I didn't say the main hero. That's obviously got to be Anakin and Obi-Wan. But do more to set up why he took Leia as his own child. Show him being a man of high moral character who does what he has to. Or conversely show him go from an anti-hero to a hero. The prequels had no analog for Han Solo, which is one of the reasons that they didn't live up to expectations.
 
It doesn't have to have Han himself, but characters require contrast. We got a bunch of squeaky clean Jedi and aristocrats.
 
Yeah, but censored everything he said,

Also, having Han Solo would have meant a somewhat real real feeling character in the PT, and we can't have that now, can we?
 
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