That's like saying "every time people try to launch rocket, it explodes. You people are crazy. We'll never get to the moon. It's just not going to be a reality."
Yes, if EVERY rocket explodes, that's exactly, 100% true. If EVERY rocket up until now exploded, you would have to be the heir to the throne of the kingdom of idiots to say "I'm'a gettin' on the next one!" They had to demonstrate at least a reasonable success rate before they started putting people on.
Might your 'rocket to the moon' work someday? Sure, AFTER you've figured out how to not make it explode and kill the crew. You're not there yet, Von Braun. Right now, Modern-Day Communism is roughly at the level of
Wan Hu.
@Doom Shepherd , please stop your anti-communism tirade. This thread isn't about whether communism has merits, it's about Martin Luther King's activism and democratic socialist and anti-imperialist beliefs, as well as his other political views and activism that are not as widely reported and well-known as his civil rights activism.
Your thread is no longer your property, and has been appropriated for the Good of the People, as Marx would have had it.
@Amaris ' post was in relation to Mr. King's anti-imperialist beliefs, specifically to a direct quote of Mr. King in which he called the United States the "greatest purveyor of violence in the world". That did not call for a blatant whataboutism in pointing the finger at Soviet crimes against humanity.
Yeah, he was really kinda wrong in that quote. Not surprising, because at the time he said it, the Soviets were still doing a fairly good job of hiding how awful their regime really was. More nukes, more foreign adventurism (Hell, Cuba alone sent troops to more countries during the 20th century than the US did, to say noting of the Soviet Bloc - you remember them right? The countries the Soviets "liberated" during WWII that never got their own governments back?), more dissidents sent to Siberia.
BTW, Ironically "Whataboutism was actually a derogatory US term for what the Soviet Union did every time it was trying to distract from ITS markedly worse record on... well, pretty much everything. It was literally their only defense.
In fact, your anti-communism is something Mr. King would not have appreciated, as a passage from his speech
"Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence shows:
*SHRUG* Fuckin' around on your wife, especially when you're a pastor, is something I don't appreciate, so I guess Dr. King and I both get to be hypocrites, just a little bit. I feel safe that the good we all do outbalances the dickishness.
I'm not even anti-socialist. I think Western Europe and Scandinavia prove socialism can work pretty well, when it's part of a healthy balanced capitalist diet. I think 'Star Trek Socialism' is a goal to strive for. I'm NOT for what American Republicans think Capitalism is, I'm against that too.
I'm anti-anti-capitalist. Especially when it's online, because DUH, what do you think you are using?
So, I'll make you a counterproposal. The old "Mexican Standoff" proposal. I'll drop the "blah-blah Communism blah," and You drop the 'blah-blah, Capitalism blah," and we'll all coexist happily ever after until Elon Musk and James Cameron mine the asteroids and Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos build the Giant Solar Power Station, and we enter the post-scarcity society and the entire argument becomes irrelevant anyway. (And then Cochrane builds the Phoenex because HE wants to get rich too, and there you have it.)
“Commerce [and] entrepreneurial capitalism take more people out of poverty than aid." - Bono
