THE ORVILLE S2, E8: "IDENTITY, PART I"
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I don't agree. If they'd done another "Trek by the numbers..." series - I doubt Discovery would have got a Season 2.
One advantage "The Orville" has is it can ape aspects of Star trek to suit itself and fans - but it DOESN'T have 5 decades of continuity (and 5 decades of a number of continuity obsessed fans) picking it apart.
"The Orville" is a non-encumbered form of TNG that allows those fans to project their fond TNG memories onto it, while discarding the same volume of crap episodes that TNG put pout in its 7 year run as well.
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I had wondered about simulation during the episode. Yes, the scanning beam could have been the initiating event.
Kaylong stuff makes sense to me. They take their time before committing to an irrevocable action. They could spread out before they fill up the planet completely due to a wide range of factors. Perhaps they want to strike before someone inevitably makes it to their homeworld and figures out that they're packed too tightly. Maybe their growth plan is optimized so that they wonn't have to fill up the planet, stop growing, then spread out. Or maybe their equipment has certain space limitations, such as for heat syncs.
I'm not saying that I want it to be a simulation. I want it to be real. But if they do make it a simulation, here's what I would like it to be- a loyalty test of Isaac or something, though I doubt that it is.
Kaylong stuff makes sense to me. They take their time before committing to an irrevocable action. They could spread out before they fill up the planet completely due to a wide range of factors. Perhaps they want to strike before someone inevitably makes it to their homeworld and figures out that they're packed too tightly. Maybe their growth plan is optimized so that they wonn't have to fill up the planet, stop growing, then spread out. Or maybe their equipment has certain space limitations, such as for heat syncs.
I'm not saying that I want it to be a simulation. I want it to be real. But if they do make it a simulation, here's what I would like it to be- a loyalty test of Isaac or something, though I doubt that it is.
Only redshirts who fired first were killed, by the way.
This is what i think will happen, the two fleets meet head to head, both ready to battle to the death, then at the back of the bridge Riker turns round, says "arch", walks through the arch and says "computer, end program", and the credits roll. 
Before and after Disney bought Fox. Hmmm.
Before and after Disney bought Fox. Hmmm.
The audience score there is the important figure.
For some reason critics were prepared to hate it out of the gate.
Instead of jumping into nonsense conspiracy theories, people might try comparing the numbers of reviewers and who they are between two seasons.
That would take some actual thought and analysis, as distinct from the kind of connect-the-dots silliness that undergirds most conspiracy theories.
That would take some actual thought and analysis, as distinct from the kind of connect-the-dots silliness that undergirds most conspiracy theories.
What? What kind of ad hominem nonsense is that?
I posted that with no sweeping conclusions or conspiracy theories. Only noting one was before and after Disney entered the fray. Those are inarguable facts. I just find it interesting, the disparity.
Cheer up, emo kid.
I posted that with no sweeping conclusions or conspiracy theories. Only noting one was before and after Disney entered the fray. Those are inarguable facts. I just find it interesting, the disparity.
Cheer up, emo kid.
Sure, you start.
The Fox deal still hasn't been finalized, so Disney doesn't own it yet. That should happen fairly soon though. So your "facts" aren't based on real information. Until the deal is final Disney is completely disconnected from Fox, which is why Kevin Feige still doesn't have access to the X-Men and Fantastic Four. I think everything should be done either in March or early April.
The final episode of the Avengers cartoon this season (which was hijacked by Black Panther) was called "The House of M" which in the comics is about the Scarlet Witch rewriting reality so that her father Magneto had won every battle against the X-Men (and Avengers, and the Fantastic Four) and had ruled 90 percent of planet Earth, as a beloved King, since the 1960s.
What a tease.
House of Masque, not House of Magnus. 
What a tease.
Sure, but the point of those sweeping mechanized urban landscapes was to communicate that we're visiting a robot world. And it still raises the question of what all these robots do, and why. Are all those buildings empty relics or are they full of robots, busy as bees at inscrutable activities? What programming drives them?
Before and after Disney bought Fox. Hmmm.
I think it is more the difference of before and after the critics got caught with their collective pants down regarding the show. Just writing it off as more of McFarlane's animated stuff.
Yeah, but it's a bit more than that, I think.
Review bombing is an actual thing; Rotten Tomatoes has just made changes to address this problem. I suspect that the circulation of the terminology in conjunction with actual conspiracies makes its misappropriation more likely, and wolf-cries of "Conspiracy!" more popular than they would be otherwise without such topics making the headlines. There's a kind of rhetorical arms race in progress, and this is a part of it. One side finds bona fide evidence of a conspiracy of review bombing, and the other side, or whatever disparate factions have a stake in the target getting a negative reception, has to counter.
But does that actually apply to the critic side of things or just the fan ratings?
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