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THE ORVILLE S2, E8: "IDENTITY, PART I"

Alright, I enjoyed this one a lot more than I expected, but I really don't want to see it resolved the way I expect: Isaac turns good because of an impassioned plea from the kids (who seem to have somehow eluded capture at the end). It's trite, hackneyed, and a betrayal of everything Isaac and Kaylons claim to be. I'd rather see something like: the Kaylons have detected, through Isaac, an even bigger interstellar threat that everyone else has missed -- maybe along the lines of the bug invasion shown in "Conspiracy Theory". The invasion is just subterfuge in preparation for mounting a defense of the Union, without tipping off the---

Oh, who the Hell am I kidding? It's going to be the kids, isn't it?
 
How about he changes sides after one of the kids gets blasted to death?

Who gets the short shrift?

Marcus or Ty?
 
I was happy to see that the Kaylons were able to be damaged/killed by the Orville security team’s “blaster” rifles. Being so “advanced”, I was expecting them to have some kind of shielding or immunity to the Union weapons.
 
A little evidence to support the Krill involvement theory:

According to IMDB (Yes, I know, not 100% reliable source):

Season 2
Episode 10
Blood of Patriots (7 Mar. 2019)
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Ed must initiate peace talks with the Krill.
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Finally saw the episode last night. Wow. Hubby and I were floored.

Best episode yet. I think this is the third week in a row I've said that.
 
I doubt we're going with a reset button. MacFarlane has already made fun of that trope on Family Guy.
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Not to mention The Orville's been really good about (usually) having untidy endings with either repercussions (the Krill, Moclan and Isaac/Claire arcs) or at least ending on some sort of untidy note (like Ed and the crew being unsure if they did the right thing by breaking their version of the prime directive in the astrology concentration camp episode). I highly doubt that they will push the reset button.

Hell, the only reason Brannon Braga et. al. even pushed the reset button on Voyager and Enterprise was the suits at UPN were constantly up their ass about it. The executives were worried that DS9-style serialization would tank the ratings. We've seen with Braga's work on both the Xindi Arc and The Orville that left to his own devices he prefers not to hit that button.
 
Not to mention The Orville's been really good about (usually) having untidy endings with either repercussions (the Krill, Moclan and Isaac/Claire arcs) or at least ending on some sort of untidy note (like Ed and the crew being unsure if they did the right thing by breaking their version of the prime directive in the astrology concentration camp episode). I highly doubt that they will push the reset button.

Hell, the only reason Brannon Braga et. al. even pushed the reset button on Voyager and Enterprise was the suits at UPN were constantly up their ass about it. The executives were worried that DS9-style serialization would tank the ratings. We've seen with Braga's work on both the Xindi Arc and The Orville that left to his own devices he prefers not to hit that button.
I hope you are right!
 
Can't find the post now, but someone found Isaac's farewell speech was Sally Fields Academy Award acceptance speech from 1997— after Mercer told him to search his databanks for a speech.
 
Even after murdering a bunch of people and betraying the Union, the kids still "love" Issac, so he is given a partial memory wipe, Asimovs, and a restraining bolt. Issac the slave, is the kid's nanny.
 
Finally something interesting happens this season. If a bit derivative a trope.

Since we, as the audience, know the show is not going to end, it's seeming like it's being set up for Isaac to betray his people. Or there has to be some other way for the humans to convince them they are worthy of coexisting, which would also probably point to Isaac's relationship with Finn.
 
I would not like a total reset that involves time travel that undoes everything or a reset where it was all a simulation. I hope that whatever resolution they come up with to stop the attack on Earth and to keep Isaac as part of the crew does leave some scars and some consequences. I would love to see the crew mourn the crew members that were lost. I would also love to see the Union make some changes as a result of how close they came to being wiped out. I would also love to see the crew take it a bit slow to take back Isaac as a member of the crew. I also don't want to see Isaac and Claire instantly go back to a relationship as if nothing happened.
 
That simulation idea made me think it's a significantly possible alternative that the invasion is really a test of how the humans would react.
 
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