THE ORVILLE S2, E1: "JA'LOJA"

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  1. Serveaux

    Serveaux The Wind Premium Member

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    Well, he's not doing it because he has to. He's been pretty successful and seems to be doing just a very nice job of living his life.
     
  2. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Seinfeld residuals, means that he only works when he has to.

    I doubt that Duckman residuals pay out much at all, if it's even still being rerun anywhere in the world right now legally.
     
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  3. Amaris

    Amaris Fuzzy Logic Generator Premium Member

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    Jason Alexander's a sci-fi fan, and was on an episode of Star Trek: Voyager called "Think Tank." He's also worked with Seth before. Hell, getting a part, no matter how small, in a new and popular science fiction show? That's a good thing. Aside from all that, he has an active career, so while he hasn't achieved the same levels of fame since Seinfeld, his work has been steady, and many of his roles memorable. I'm not sure you can ask for much more than that as an actor.
     
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  4. Serveaux

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    Jason Alexander is doin' okay.

    When you're involved with something like Seinfeld, you're likely to have to make peace with never being involved with a project so successful again.

    OTOH, if your agent has done it right you can choose to do whatever most challenges or amuses you for the rest of your life.

    Alexander has been married for nearly forty years. Good going, George!
     
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  5. The Wormhole

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    It's not uncommon today for naval vessels to have multiple lounges, mess halls and other recreational areas shipboard.
     
  6. JD

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    This seems like the kind of role someone like him would do for the fun of it, not because he has to. Usually when you see someone like him doing a role like this, it's because they're a fan of the series, or are working with a friend. From the above posts it sounds like both might be true in this case.

    Speaking of bigger actors appearing on The Orville, I'm kind of amazed Mila Kunis has popped up on it yet. She's got a pretty extensive history with Seth McFarlane, and she's a big ol' nerd, so this seems like something she'd be willing to appear on.
     
  7. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I noticed Will Sasso in the credits. Did I miss him, or was his scene cut? His character is supposed to be Mooska, who runs the restaurant.
     
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  8. Amaris

    Amaris Fuzzy Logic Generator Premium Member

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    Yeah, that was him. It's just the part was so brief you could almost blink and miss it.
     
  9. The Wormhole

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    Sounds like you missed him. There's a scene with him chatting with Alara just before Dann shows up for their date.
     
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  10. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Damn. Maybe I should re-watch the episode. In any way, I hope both he and Jason Alexander make more appearances on the show.
     
  11. Jayson1

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    I agree that him doing "Orville" sounds like something done mostly for fun and that was a bad analogy. I also agree he is doing fine in terms of money and proably is having a nice life. I guess I just assumed though he might have eventually become a top notch character actor or maybe have another big hit like Dreyfus did with "Veep."

    Jason
     
  12. picardjean-luc

    picardjean-luc Commander Red Shirt

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    Its called the 'Seinfeld curse' mate. Although it seems only affecting the male cast members of the series like Alexander and the guy who played Kramer.

    Somehow Julia Louis-Dreyfus escaped it, scoring hits with "The New Adventures of Old Christine" and "Veep" (she won Emmys for the latter).
     
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    I'm not shocked that Richards didn't escape it even if the racist joke meltdown didn't happen. He was super funny as Kramer but I never thought he would be someone who would transition to other roles. Seinfeld was also never good enough actor to do other roles either but he has actually having some modern success with his comedians in cars stuff. Of course it's also possible that Alexander didn't have a even bigger career is because Larry David stole it form him.:) Alexander is suppose to be the HBO darling from Seinfeld who gets to play a cranky non-PC person who keeps getting into messes he brings on himself.

    Jason
     
  14. Cyrus

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    Had we seen shuttle cloaking and food replicators before or were they new to this episode? Are they eventually going to do transporters?
     
  15. Serveaux

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    There's teleportation in the Orville universe, but it's far beyond the capabilities of the Union - as it should be.

    Cloaks and the replicators were established early last season. I don't love the replicators because they behave magically - instant materialization - but they could hypothetically be justified on the basis of some technology other than matter transmutation.
     
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    Yeah, MacFarlane said he's intentionally left transporters out of the Union. Mostly because he likes the idea of everyone leaving the ship via shuttles, and that's fine by me.

    Though it is odd they have replicators but no transporters, given the two devices operate on similar principals. But I don't let that bother me since the replicators are mostly just there for plot convenience and that's fine too.
     
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  17. Kai "the spy"

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    When I created my own SF universe, I also had replicators but no transporters (at least not for living beings), with the reasoning that the technology could not reproduce a personality.
    Another option might be to cite ethical reasons, given that a transporter essentially makes a copy of a person while destroying the original person.
     
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  18. Serveaux

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    Not necessarily. Synthesizers could function by nanomachine assembly of objects.
     
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    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    Ditto. I don't like transporters, unless they use some kind of space warp or wormhole technology. Breaking people down and reassembling them essentially kills them. And they've barely touched the surface of things that could go wrong with a transporter broadcast-- like, what if every ship in the fleet had their transporter set to receive while you were beaming out? :rommie:

    Replicators are okay in the sense of 3D printers, but not these things that make fully constructed objects-- including food (complete with proteins and stuff)-- appear out of thin air.
     
  20. theenglish

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    Just saw the episode. It was...okay. I do enjoy watching the characters though. So Jason Alexander is going to be the Orville's Guinan?