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THE ORVILLE: S1, E7: "MAJORITY RULE"

Rate the episode:

  • ***** Excellent

    Votes: 43 40.2%
  • ****

    Votes: 40 37.4%
  • ***

    Votes: 15 14.0%
  • **

    Votes: 5 4.7%
  • * Fear the banana

    Votes: 4 3.7%

  • Total voters
    107
After watching the episode again just now with a friend, there's some contextual inference I picked up on that might "better explain" the concept of the down votes in circumstances like this.

It's "possible" an arrest simply triggers a "window" in which you've got to stay under 10-million votes to avoid the lobotomy (this is actually directly stated and the reason for the publicity tour) but it it could be this window is separate from your usual tally and that once you're found "innocent"/forgiven your down votes are reset back to where they were before the event that triggered the sudden increase. (In John's case before the moment the video of him went viral and his votes started skyrocketing. Computer tracking could likely know where to put it just based on the when the surge began.)

Granted there's nothing in the episode that says this is the case but it's assumption and presumption on part given certain things, namely that he had to stay under 10-million during this window, but at the same time it'd seem him being a few numbers shy of 10 million didn't impact anything when the initial breach into 1-million triggered the arrest. This could be how it is in order to offer some manner of "fairness" to the system so that when someone gets so highly impacted by an act they're not entirely screwed out of a life. if the middle-aged woman can be denied service at just over 500,000 I suspect someone a few numbers shy of 10 million couldn't do anything and the "lawyer"'s interaction with John seems to imply that he'd be more-or-less fine if he gets out of the window under 10 million and he says he's "freed" people who'd reached John's point before his second TV appearance. So there mtust be some manner of reversing the votes or undoing them when an event elevates it to a criminal act.

I was also wondering about what advantages there are to getting positive votes, and wondered if it maybe didn't mean more financial success on some level or another. The girl from the cafe seems to have a very nice apartment given her job, maybe she has enough "up votes" that gets her a higher than average salary or a larger "livable wage." A sort of fucked-up form of socialism based on one's societal image.

When the "barista" chick sees Alara in the restroom I wonder if doesn't sort of suggest their society has no extreme body modification (probably would cause a lot of "down votes.") If you ran into someone on the street with odd-looking ears and forehead ridges your first thought would likely be the person has had some bizarre silicon implants or other body modification, not that the person was an alien.
 
Kind of like O’brians lawyer in the DS9 episode Tribunal.
I liked that guy.
"Have you ever actually won a case?"
"Winning isn't everything."
If someone dry-humped a statue of Abraham Lincoln, it would be assumed that the person would know who he was. However, since John showed a lack of knowledge of the voting system, the Publicity Tour guy should have assumed he didn't know common things. But, I got the sense he wasn't that interested in seeing John vindicated.
Again, it was an "oh shit, I should have thought of that" thing. The PR guy so used to everyone knowing who the statue represents, and is himself not particularly bright, that he probably never even considered the fact that this guy who doesn't know anything about the voting system might not know who he was humping until it was too late.

Pretend if this were a Simpsons episode from over twenty years ago, and John humped the statue of Jebediah Springfield and was in court being represented by Lionel Hutz. Would it actually surprise you if Lionel Hutz neglected to inform John who Jebediah Springfield was?
 
STD is just such a fucking lame show.

In the words of The Dude:
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I get it, you like The Orville better, but claiming your opinion as fact doesn't make it so.
 
I don't "claim my opinion as fact."

Apparently some folks on the web are aggrieved if opinions they don't like aren't offered with lots of forelock tugging and plastered with silly acronyms like "IMHO."

Get over that. It's obvious to anyone that any judgment rendered on a piece of art is an opinion.

Discovery is lame, a waste of resources and not worth paying a couple of bucks to watch.
 
Discovery, at this point, is eminently more entertaining than Orville. It's a show I sit down and give my full attention. Orville is purely, "let me put it on and get some chores done" level. A nice distraction, but nothing more.

To paraphrase Robert California, "The Orville is sci-fi for people who don't like sci-fi, it's comedy for people who don't like comedy, it's Star Trek for people who don't like Star Trek."
 
It's easy to get sucked into the "either or." I'm guilty of it. But, it's almost like enjoying one does not require you to hate the other one.
 
I thought that this was a fascinating episode exploring the social media aspect of our lives and how it can drive everything. It almost felt like something TOS would have explored if it were still being made today. Great bit of social commentary.
 
STD is just such a fucking lame show.

Orville is such a fucking average show. Everything about it is okay, nothing about it is too bad and nothing about it is great. It understands what made Star Trek: The Next Generation a good show, and it is moderately decent at replicatng it but without any kind of unique voice of its own.
 
Last I checked, this is supposed to be an Orville thread -- says so right in the title.;) Can we get back to discussing Orville? I liked the brainstorming session where they were trying to present John as more likable, especially where they took Bortus's completely inappropriate idea and made it work! Now that was good comedy.

Bortus: He has slain many enemies.
Alara: ...he's a veteran!
 
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